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Old 09-09-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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And yet, SIN still exists? What exactly did Jesus take if there is still sin?


Behold, the savior of mankind...


Jesus took away the penalty of sin.

Romans 8:1 So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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The evangelical god has said marriage is NOT the norm..
Where did He says that?

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The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."
Why quit in the middle. Why not post the reason? also that doe not indicate God is opposed to marriage.

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Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.
It was not give to everyone.

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So Jesus said ONLY the weak will marry, because they are unable (unwilling) to accept God's word.
Why do you keep making up stuff when you know you will be challenged? Jesus aid no such thing.

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There is also a BIG difference between ALLOWING and PREVENTING...
So you want God to take away man's free will.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Are you insinuating Zhatz is a fundy. I think you know perfectly well the verses in question. Are you ok with babies heads being smashed against the rocks ? , I'm not and to give consideration to your god I would need to see some repentance first.

Are you ok with accusing God of misconduct but not providing the passages? l It is amazing that someone who says they believe in God thinks they are more honorable than He is.

When Job complained to God about his treatment, God said to Job, " will you condemn Me to justify yourself. Think about that.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Lol. You magically believe God is showing you what is truth in the bible. The sons of God are led in life by the spirit and not into bible study.
I would not go that far camps. Any field of study whether it be history, archeology, science, nature or even bible study has truth to be found in them, and the Spirit will lead us into ALL truth.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:30 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Lol. You magically believe God is showing you what is truth in the bible. The sons of God are led in life by the spirit and not into bible study.
Nothing magic about it. That is what the Bible says and it does not say or even imply the truth is not from God's inspired word. Your way, you get to make up any thing YOU want to. If you can't reinforce it from the Bible, you have n way of knowing for sure it is from the Holy Spirit. Remember Satan disguises himself as an angel of light
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I rely on the Spirit who guides me into the truth in the Bible.
How can you NOT see that you are limiting the operation of the Spirit and imposing an authority NOT promised by Jesus in the pages of the book you claim as authority?
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The blood on the lintel was the blood of the lamb of God. What did applying that blood do?

BEHOLD THE LAMB OF GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD
It identified the people in the household as members of the spiritually protected community.

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Old 09-09-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Nothing magic about it. That is what the Bible says and it does not say or even imply the truth is not from God's inspired word. Your way, you get to make up any thing YOU want to. If you can't reinforce it from the Bible, you have n way of knowing for sure it is from the Holy Spirit. Remember Satan disguises himself as an angel of light
Nah, the spirit within via the mind of Christ lets us know for sure if it is from the Holy Spirit, our spirit bearing witness.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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And yet, SIN still exists? What exactly did Jesus take if there is still sin?


Behold, the savior of mankind...


In John 1:29, "takes away" is a present participle. A present participle expresses a continuous action or repeated action. It does not in any way indicated the time of the action.

Why do you feel it is necessary to post an inaccurate version of that painting? Do you really think what is false can portray the truth?
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Give me the Biblical reference, not your OPINION.
There is NO "biblical reference" that determines the "Penal Substitution" theory of the mechanics of the Atonement. It is a doctrine of men which you have absorbed as necessary to believe. What was mentioned is a part of that doctrine of men. How is it that you are not understanding that?
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