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lol sorry, that's hogwash, as evidenced by the fact that All Muslims Are Lost, as far as you are concerned, right? Or even that Protestants claim Catholics are all lost, and vice versa. please.
Vice versa is a bit hard because catholics don't believe in everlasting punishment of the ungodly in hell as far as I know, they just believe in a sort of temporal refining, much like the universalists. So "lost" in a protestant perspective is very different from a catholic perspective because it really means lost forever, no chance of reconciliation with God after this life if we haven't been reconciled in this life through faith in Jesus Christ.
So in other words, if the catholics are right, the protestants will still be fine in due time.. on the other hand if the protestants (and the Bible is..) are right, the catholics have got all of eternity to regret believing their man-made doctrines.
Vice versa is a bit hard because catholics don't believe in everlasting punishment of the ungodly in hell as far as I know, they just believe in a sort of temporal refining, much like the universalists. So "lost" in a protestant perspective is very different from a catholic perspective because it really means lost forever, no chance of reconciliation with God after this life if we haven't been reconciled in this life through faith in Jesus Christ.
So in other words, if the catholics are right, the protestants will still be fine in due time.. on the other hand if the protestants (and the Bible is..) are right, the catholics have got all of eternity to regret believing their man-made doctrines.
Yes.. so likewise they will have all of eternity to regret believing that man-made doctrine if they haven't been reconciled with God in this life according to the Bible.
Vice versa is a bit hard because catholics don't believe in everlasting punishment of the ungodly in hell as far as I know, they just believe in a sort of temporal refining, much like the universalists. So "lost" in a protestant perspective is very different from a catholic perspective because it really means lost forever, no chance of reconciliation with God after this life if we haven't been reconciled in this life through faith in Jesus Christ.
So in other words, if the catholics are right, the protestants will still be fine in due time.. on the other hand if the protestants (and the Bible is..) are right, the catholics have got all of eternity to regret believing their man-made doctrines.
Of course they believe in hell. They believe in "purgatory" to cleanse a person from their minor, or "venial" sins, but they believe a person goes straight to hell if they have a "mortal", or serious sin on their conscience. To alleviate that, one must confess their mortal sins and be forgiven. If you've seen the movie Saving Private Ryan, you'll see a priest standing on the beach giving absolution to the dying men. It's what the "last rites" is about -- forgiving of all sins so they can go to Heaven.
Of course they believe in hell. They believe in "purgatory" to cleanse a person from their minor, or "venial" sins, but they believe a person goes straight to hell if they have a "mortal", or serious sin on their conscience. To alleviate that, one must confess their mortal sins and be forgiven. If you've seen the movie Saving Private Ryan, you'll see a priest standing on the beach giving absolution to the dying men. It's what the "last rites" is about -- forgiving of all sins so they can go to Heaven.
Yes but the bottom line is, their version of hell is not a permanent sentence, which was the point I was making. Just for arguments' sake, for a protestant it's not that bad if the catholics are right, on the other hand if the protestant is right, the catholic is eternally lost without any hope for a remedy. The difference is the man-made doctrine of a possibility for reconciliation and repentance after this life.. which is obviously not Biblical, as you know.
Hebrew 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Yes but the bottom line is, their version of hell is not a permanent sentence, which was the point I was making.
That point couldn't be farther from the truth. The Catholic church teaches the existence of a permanent hell. What you're confusing is the idea idea of purgatory, where Christians are purged from their minor sins. The non-Christians don't go to purgatory, and if a Christian has a serious, mortal sin on their conscience, they don't go to purgatory---they go straight to hell.
I'd encourage you to do some more investigation into what the RCC actually teaches before stating it as fact. I say that as a former Catholic that knows what it teaches.
That point couldn't be farther from the truth. The Catholic church teaches the existence of a permanent hell. What you're confusing is the idea idea of purgatory, where Christians are purged from their minor sins. The non-Christians don't go to purgatory, and if a Christian has a serious, mortal sin on their conscience, they don't go to purgatory---they go straight to hell.
I'd encourage you to do some more investigation into what the RCC actually teaches before stating it as fact. I say that as a former Catholic that knows what it teaches.
Hmm you're right I apologise.. should've done better research. I basically took my view mostly from the catholics I spoke with.. and from history lessons on the selling of indulgences etc. But you're right, there is such a thing as an eternal hell in roman catholicism.
Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
Does anyone reason on this matter you have presented? Why is death and Hades thrown in to the lake of fire. The answer is just the same reason everything else is thrown in there--eternally destroyed.
Does anyone reason on this matter you have presented? Why is death and Hades thrown in to the lake of fire. The answer is just the same reason everything else is thrown in there--eternally destroyed.
Hades is thrown into the lake of fire? I thought hades was the lake of fire.
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