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Retaining salvation is like man's sedative on that matter ( an imaginary stretch) .The millions of lukewarm fake christians will ( if living in the 3.5 year of Tribulation ) have to decide to opt for beheading or God. Those who choose the later are damned ?
Retaining salvation is like man's sedative on that matter ( an imaginary stretch)because. The millions of lukewarm fake christians will ( if living in the 3.5 year of Tribulation ) have to decide to opt for beheading or God. Those who choose the later are damned ?
Is that before or after they send all their money to Jim Bakker for overpriced military rations?
Your easy believism is as wrong as PG's parroting of the Bible. The narrow Way is agape love of God and each other every day and repenting when we don't.
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Where did he state that? I've demonstrated to you that to do the Father's will is to believe. I've shown you that Jesus said he would lose none of us. That means it's not up to us to remain any more than it is up to a sheep to remain with the shepherd. Jesus is the good shepherd that will keep us. That's it. We do not earn God's favor, or keep his love by doing anything but believing.
::Sigh:: He said ""Remain in me, as I also remain in you. ... " NOT remain BELIEVING in me, Vizio. That easy believism is a huge stumbling block to understanding God and His agape love.
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Again...I'd suggest you really need to spend some time studying. Read Galatians. It's not difficult -- it's clear that NOTHING we can do will continue to keep us in God's favor. Paul has some rather pointed words regarding people that believe as you do that to keep our salvation we must do works of the law.
It has nothing to do with doing the works of the law, Vizio. It is all about acting out of agape love every day and repenting when we don't. It is the state of our mind and heart in agape love that keeps us under Christ's perfect agape love (Grace).
Retaining salvation is like man's sedative on that matter ( an imaginary stretch) .The millions of lukewarm fake christians will ( if living in the 3.5 year of Tribulation ) have to decide to opt for beheading or God. Those who choose the later are damned ?
They have to be lukewarm and fake when others are pushing a dude died, woke up, and flew away. They have no choice when confronted with such an adolescent statement.
They have to be lukewarm and fake when others are pushing a dude died, woke up, and flew away. They have no choice when confronted with such an adolescent statement.
Or pushing that God is only able to forgive those who believe that the dude died, woke up and flew away, and if the dude had NOT died, woke up and flew away, God would be incapable of forgiving anyone.
Jesus says that if salt loses its seasoning then it is to be thrown out. This after calling the disciples salt. So here he is saying they can lose there worthiness.
Matthew 5:13 NRS
"You are the salt of the earth; but if salt has lost its taste, how can its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything, but is thrown out and trampled under foot."
Jesus also eludes to the fact one must continue in His word to be a disciple. Another fact that one can lose there salvation.
John 8:31
"If you continue in my word you are truly my discple then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free."
Do you agree?
Yes. If you continue to reject God, you will eventually lose your salvation. Once you lose it, you cannot regain it. It's too late. You've completely reject God's gift of eternal life.
Yes. If you continue to reject God, you will eventually lose your salvation. Once you lose it, you cannot regain it. It's too late. You've completely reject God's gift of eternal life.
What do you believe your salvation is from and do you have clear and concise scripture to support it ?.
What do you believe your salvation is from and do you have clear and concise scripture to support it ?.
Salvation is given from God. To support my belief in losing salvation, look at Romans 6:1. It's impossible to receive more grace if we keep on sinning. It doesn't work that way.
Yes. If you continue to reject God, you will eventually lose your salvation. Once you lose it, you cannot regain it. It's too late. You've completely reject God's gift of eternal life.
How can you lose something you had nothing to do with getting????
How many times can one LOSE and regain salvation? 3? 6? 100? At what point does it become laughable and obvious that The God I Know is not keeping score and is not in the business of revoking salvation and restoring it on a daily or even hourly basis?
Suppose it could be like the stock market where one's Salvation Value rises or drops dependent on behavior? LOL
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