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Old 10-14-2016, 07:47 AM
 
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And Jesus, who loved women, chose a woman to appear to first, and to carry the news of his resurrection. A woman, not a man. That says multitudes more to me than anything written by Paul.
There is no reason to suggest that Paul had any issue with women.

 
Old 10-14-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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There is no reason to suggest that Paul had any issue with women.
Well, no, not if he didn't write the passages cited to exercise the prejudice against them.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 08:55 AM
 
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Well, no, not if he didn't write the passages cited to exercise the prejudice against them.
If you haven't figured out by now, people will take words and twist them to mean whatever they want. Paul gave no indication of being misogynistic. But he did recognize that gender roles exist, and God put rules in place regarding his church and how it should be organized.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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If you haven't figured out by now, people will take words and twist them to mean whatever they want. Paul gave no indication of being misogynistic. But he did recognize that gender roles exist, and God put rules in place regarding his church and how it should be organized.
What you fail to understand is that "gender roles" other than biological ARE misogynistic.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 09:11 AM
 
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What you fail to understand is that "gender roles" other than biological ARE misogynistic.
Says.........you? Why do you believe you have the authority to decide that?
 
Old 10-14-2016, 09:17 AM
 
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Says.........you? Why do you believe you have the authority to decide that?
Authority is not needed, just good sense.....and a willingness to follow it rather than our prejudices.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Authority is not needed, just good sense.....and a willingness to follow it rather than our prejudices.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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Authority is not needed, just good sense.....and a willingness to follow it rather than our prejudices.
And you're making assumptions that YOUR opinion overrides the inspired Word of God.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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And you're making assumptions that YOUR opinion overrides the inspired Word of God.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 10:09 AM
 
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And Jesus, who loved women, chose a woman to appear to first, and to carry the news of his resurrection. A woman, not a man. That says multitudes more to me than anything written by Paul.
Of course Jesus loves both men and women. No one is arguing that. However, He and the Father chose men to lead the church.

As far as Paul goes, Peter, who walked with Jesus, confirmed Paul's words as gospel.
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