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Old 10-26-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Righteousness in the Bible does not refer to literal righteousness. It refers to spiritual righteousness. We get the righteousness the same way Abraham did---he believed God.

I Cor 1:30 - By His(God)doing we are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification.
Cultist nonsense.

Proverbs 21:2 ESV / 168 helpful votes

Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, but the Lord weighs the heart.

Luke 6:45New International Version (NIV)

45 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

Common sense and even the Bible, know that our goodness is in our hearts/core selfs. It makes no sense for god to consider David a righteous man considering his actions. It is pathetic to write and sing praises while living in sin. Solomon was no different. Lot, was more pathetic, yet these are considered righteous men.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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You are not an authority on matter.
Neither are you. Logic does not require an authortty.

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You do not get to decide(for mankind) the origin of the universe or man.
Neither do you. Ihave not decided anything. I have offered a logical opinion, which is more than you have done.

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You are entitled to your opinion, but not what constitutes evidence or facts.
The only facts in this discussion is that we have a universe and life. It seems sthe only 2 optins is that there is an eternal Creator, or matter and life is eternal. Take your pick and tell us why your opinion is better than mine.

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And, even if these are the result of a creator, there is no evidence it is tied to the Bible.
Yes there is. The Bible tells us God did it. Evolution certainly doesn't tell us how it got here.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:14 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Again, only your baseless opinion. No different than if I wanted to believe in Santa.
A have read your baseless opinion and say my opinion is better than yours, which you are not even willing to mention.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:16 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Paul understands fundamentalism because he was a fundamentalist...
If you understood fundamentalism, you would know that he does not understand it. If he was ever a true fundamentalist, he still would be.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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You admitted that you don't use logic; that's on you. I'm simply agreeing with you.
I have not said I don't use logic. I say my logic is better than those who say God did not do .
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:18 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Where does it give that for the reason in the book of Job?...
It doesn't say it in the book of Job. That is what the Bibbe teaches in other places.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:22 AM
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Location: Free State of Texas
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The BOP is on you since you made the assertion. You must prove that everything had a cause.
I did. You can't name even one thing without a cause.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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If it's not evidenced, then by definition, it is made up. Its only a legitimate questions if the premise is evidenced.
Your opinion is not evidenced either ,so it is also made up.

All we are saying is the everything has a cause . Can you falsify that?


We are also saying God being the cause is more logical than saying matter is its own source.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:24 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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That's a false dichotomy.
Tell me why it is. That is only your opinion.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Neither are you. Logic does not require an authortty.



Neither do you. Ihave not decided anything. I have offered a logical opinion, which is more than you have done.



The only facts in this discussion is that we have a universe and life. It seems sthe only 2 optins is that there is an eternal Creator, or matter and life is eternal. Take your pick and tell us why your opinion is better than mine.



Yes there is. The Bible tells us God did it. Evolution certainly doesn't tell us how it got here.

I'm not presenting a baseless opinion, you are. Logic and reason don't assume supernatural intervention.

Flawed books written by men don't constitute facts. The Bible is not evidence. There are books that claim there is a santa.
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