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Whatever nametag you hang onto it, it's "existence".. and like the existence of any other thing, a guitar, a book, a school etc. it has a cause for existence.. things don't just poof out of the air, did you ever notice that? And some try to get around this causality thing by saying there doesn't need to be a cause, but how on earth then can there be any existence without a cause?
And if you try to put in a random cause, a big bang theory or whatever, how can a random explosion become an intricate design such as human, animal and plant-life? You see, just as with an intricate painting, there must be a really brilliant painter behind it, so it is with the beauty and intricacy of existence and life we can see around us, there must be a brilliant Creator behind that. And incase you want to go with a "big bang", where did the stuff that caused the explosion come from? Everything must come from something (law of causality) and it cannot exist, unless the eternal God created it out of nothing. Now a truly ridiculous exercise in logic is trying to defend anything besides the truth, namely that:
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
I know right! How can something come from nothing? I mean who created that guitar? Who created that building? That painting?
God requires faith... not proof. We are not called to prove anything. We are called to believe.
Using this criterion, is there anything that cannot be legitimately claimed? Do you believe all of the claims about people seeing Elvis? Alien abductions?
Whatever nametag you hang onto it, it's "existence".. and like the existence of any other thing, a guitar, a book, a school etc. it has a cause for existence.. things don't just poof out of the air, did you ever notice that? And some try to get around this causality thing by saying there doesn't need to be a cause, but how on earth then can there be any existence without a cause?
And if you try to put in a random cause, a big bang theory or whatever, how can a random explosion become an intricate design such as human, animal and plant-life? You see, just as with an intricate painting, there must be a really brilliant painter behind it, so it is with the beauty and intricacy of existence and life we can see around us, there must be a brilliant Creator behind that. And incase you want to go with a "big bang", where did the stuff that caused the explosion come from? Everything must come from something (law of causality) or else it cannot exist, unless the eternal God created it out of nothing. Now a truly ridiculous exercise in logic is trying to defend anything besides the truth, namely that:
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
To contest the misinformation presented. As a sheeple Christian, I never knew the absurdities and contradictions in the bible. After honest reading and study I .
Bad things:
You owe God 10% of your income.
You are wicked if not saved.
You are worthless and only achieve through the sky fairy.
Selling daughters into slavery is ok.
Misogyny is ok.
Killing whole ethnicities is ok.
Read the full story of Lot.
Beating and owning slaves is ok.
Donkeys can talk.
Mass rape is ok.
Every species on earth was populated from a boat.
Unrepented sinners burn in hell forever.
What is important is that this book be exposed for what it is, just Jewish written nonsense.
ah. imo, you would be much more effective if you approached the Bible differently, and used It against them--although "against" is not even a very good term there, as there is no competition in that sense imo--but i understand, and that is up to you. I would think the fact that the Bible discourse upon the reality of "a book that is used to misguide vast numbers of people into believing bad things," much like the things you list up there, would be impossible to match for evidence in your cause, but then wadr "As a sheeple Christian, I never knew the absurdities and contradictions in the bible" tells me that the Bible has been spiritually denied to you successfully, and that you hold that...what, i don't want to put words in your mouth, but something like those contradictions are mistakes, oops, it is a vast conspiracy, and no one noticed that apparent contradictions were creeping in, they were so busy writing propaganda lol. Can you give me an example of any other propaganda where this is in evidence? God loves you
I can tell my dog: Who did that? He will take a shameful walk of guilt.
Mine will too...sometimes (usually) I do not even have to say WHO POOPED IN THE HOUSE..he KNOWS as soon as I walk in the door what my reaction will be..
It is faith in God revealing Himself in the Bible. It is faith in Jesus Christ and His death and resurrection for our sins. It is faith concerning the internal testimony of the Holy Spirit to our conscience.
Is FAITH not also WISHFUL thinking...in fact anything not based on FACTS is considered WISHFUL thinking..Daddy always said wish in one hand and ***** in the other....it's all the same
Is FAITH not also WISHFUL thinking...in fact anything not based on FACTS is considered WISHFUL thinking..Daddy always said wish in one hand and ***** in the other....it's all the same
I thought it was "Pray in one hand and sh*t in the other"?
Imo, this book has made it impossible for Christians to be intellectually honest.
well, it is maybe that the Book is spiritually denied to people now, just like It was physically denied them for hundreds of years. But i certainly agree with you there, even though that is not universal, it is common, possibly even the default, in Established US/Western Christianity, anyway. But again, anyone studying the Bible finds support for this in many, many places. It is not a secret. It is obviously a part of the plan. Does it make sense to us? No, but then we want Jesus to come and put on an earthly crown, and remove this terrible, awful free will from us, huh.
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