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Old 10-24-2016, 02:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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And again, you didn't read or comprehend what I said. There is a difference between killing and murder. And yes, there are tares and wheat in each person. That is the microcosm view of the word. But there is a macrocosm view as well. Both witness each other, so you can't take one and call it righteous, and the other sin. Peace
When a human being kills because they believe "God said so", it's murder.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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now we're back to "God is a murderer," ignoring that God can make a seed, but you can't.
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just as the existence of Jesus cannot be definitively proved, equally God killing anyone, ever, cannot. Those are stories that contain truth, not meant to be taken for facts that can be proven imo.

You are all over the map.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:47 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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You do realize that once you make these statements, you lose any credibility when defending your God, your Bible, and your religion, don't you?
No. Why?

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Using this logic you can not condemn any actions by anyone since they might be one of your God's "good purposes".
I did't use logic. I said it was MY OPINION.

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You cannot say with any credibility that the 9/11 hijackers committed horrible acts, since your God might simply be using them for "good purposes". Since "our ways are not his ways", how can you condemn child rapists with any justifiable reason? But, I do agree that your God's ways are not our ways, fortunately.
You illogic in this whole post escapes me.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:49 PM
 
Location: New England
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nonetheless, God is going to "kill you" someday, TD.
It was Job not God who said the Lord gives and the Lord takes away. You have to hand it to Job, no matter what he believed God was throwing at him, he was never going to curse him. I am pretty sure that eventually he understood that all that befell was down to himself........ That which i greatly feared has come upon me, he must have seen you cannot have an effect without a cause.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:49 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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You are all over the map.
well, it seems God is anthropomorphised to make a point, when God is not a person, and does not have a personality such as we like to imagine. God cannot murder, because God is not a person.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:53 PM
 
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well, it seems God is anthropomorphised to make a point, when God is not a person, and does not have a personality such as we like to imagine. God cannot murder, because God is not a person.
So, what you had was people anthropomorphizing God and SAYING that God told them to kill, to make themselves righteous in their own eyes. I agree. It had nothing to do with God.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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That's right. Avoid the point.

There is no discernable difference between the nature of your God and theirs.
Of course there is. God says "love your enemies." Their religion says kill infidels

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There is no way to prove who is serving the "real" God. But based on "scripture", you're comfortable saying that it's okay for God (and those who are being obedient to God) to kill, and so are they. You and your Gods are cut from the same cloth.
When God orders a nation killed, it does not affect the final outcome of their lives and it saves the lives of the children under the age of accountability. If those children grow up, they would accept and worship the false gods of their parents and be lost. Dying before the age of accountability, takes them directly to God.
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Old 10-24-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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How embarrassing it would be if a more advanced life form visited our planet to see so many worshipping a god that demanded animal sacrifices to atone for our natural ills.
If they were advanced, they would understand and believe in God. Sins are sins, not natural ills.
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Old 10-24-2016, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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We don't know yet, because we don't have enough evidence to make that determination. Do you know? If so, what is your evidence? If your answer is "your God", then how did he/she/it come from nothing?
At this point, a creator (of some sort) is the only answer we have. The creator/maker/designer is always greater than the created. Therefore, it is feasible that the creator exists on a higher plane and needs no creating. Infinite creator makes no sense.
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Old 10-24-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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How sad - and sickening - that the barbarism of primitive beliefs still exists in primitive minds today.
You means like slaughtering innocent babies?

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Thankfully, the disease of fundamentalism is close to being cured by the extinction of these spiritual dinosaurs within a couple of generations.
Unfortunately bigotry will not be cured in our lifetime.
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