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Old 10-26-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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...but it is what happened.
ok, but other Sects use other Canons. And we have numerous examples of God using what man rejects. So, prolly like gravity, it does not matter if you reject the Bible or not, if you end up manifesting what is said in the Bible. We even have parables for this. God does not care if you call yourself an Atheist, and reject the Bible, if you then go and manifest Christ to people. And right in the Bible, it is plainly stated that wolves are going to rush in and appropriate. 7 So...don't let anyone divert you from the truth. It's the person who acts right who is right, just as we see it lived out...

you are encouraged by Scripture to suspect the translations given to you, and seek your own understanding, recognizing that it should not be done lightly, for personal ends. We have the original, in any Lexicon; and even that is not the end of discovering what was really meant, as the Lex leads to other knowledge that may be pursued for understanding.

You are in no way required to accept "Believe, repent, and be baptized in His Name" as we are so insistently told, if "Accept, be open to owning up to your mistakes, and immerse yourself in the spirit of this" works better for you; and the Bible tells me so.
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Old 10-26-2016, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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To bring us back on to topic ...there is nothing in scripture that should cause any gay person to either feel bad about themselves or to have to put up with any form of anti-gay bull---- from Christian ignoramuses.

Okay?
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:04 AM
 
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So, prolly like gravity, it does not matter if you reject the Bible or not, if you end up manifesting what is said in the Bible.
What...you mean like keeping slaves, screwing your daughters or handing them over to be gang-raped, killing babies...that sort of thing?

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To bring us back on to topic ...there is nothing in scripture that should cause any gay person to either feel bad about themselves or to have to put up with any form of anti-gay bull---- from Christian ignoramuses.

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Agreed.

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Old 10-27-2016, 05:42 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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To bring us back on to topic ...there is nothing in scripture that should cause any gay person to either feel bad about themselves or to have to put up with any form of anti-gay bull---- from Christian ignoramuses.

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absolutely, anymore than a left handed person or those with challenges in life should feel "bad" about their situation.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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then the only question that remains is why they seem to feel bad anyway, and where the responsibility for this lies, it seems to me.
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What...you mean like keeping slaves, screwing your daughters or handing them over to be gang-raped, killing babies...that sort of thing?
tell you what, show me where you are advised to do those things--which you know you can't do--and we'll go from there, eh?
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Agreed.
? nonetheless Mr Savage et al seem to have quite a different impression lol.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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To bring us back on to topic ...there is nothing in scripture that should cause any gay person to either feel bad about themselves or to have to put up with any form of anti-gay bull---- from Christian ignoramuses.

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Agreed.
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then the only question that remains is why they seem to feel bad anyway, and where the responsibility for this lies, it seems to me.
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? nonetheless Mr Savage et al seem to have quite a different impression lol.
The "agreed" that you quote was in response to the Romulus post above. As for the responsibility, it lies with 3,000 years of bullying.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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The "agreed" that you quote was in response to the Romulus post above. As for the responsibility, it lies with 3,000 years of bullying.
then why is the attack not directed at the bullies, one wonders, wherein the Bible would support it.
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Old 10-27-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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then why is the attack not directed at the bullies, one wonders, wherein the Bible would support it.
Because the attack is on the SOURCE of the conduct of those bullies....get to the ROOT.
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Old 10-27-2016, 03:51 PM
 
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Because the attack is on the SOURCE of the conduct of those bullies....get to the ROOT.
and so you discard the Source that would plainly explain to you, in many places, that this kind of behavior will happen, Paul went on for pages about it, "I know the minute i leave, the wolves will be here," etc. but you hate Paul, because he wrote a bunch of words that the definitions of have all been misunderstood, on purpose, as the Book will tell you, so that people may see and not see, iow give people a choice to be hypocrites if they like, because after all what is someone who sees but can't see, but a hypocrite. you have no valid attack, pick any verse you want, and we will see, right there in the original, if the translation is not clear. But i don't expect you to take me up on this, of course, for the only too abundantly apparent reason, wadr.

And just so you know, i do not judge you, and God is not going to judge you, based upon this. Little children, let no one deceive you! The one who does what is right is righteous, just as He is righteous. If you do right, and never crack a Bible, you are going to be in the same place that Samuel is, with Saul and his sons. All go to the same place. It is strictly, entirely, completely up to you whether you follow Samuel, or Saul. And neither one is on fire, ok, there is no fire, fire is a chemical reaction, lol, recognize. an analogy, ok.
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Old 10-27-2016, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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^perhaps you thought you were making some kind of sense?
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