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"I would like to apologize for describing that walk out as a pansy-assed move. I wasn't calling the handful of students who left pansies (2800+ students, most of them Christian, stayed and listened), just the walk-out itself. But that's a distinction without a difference—kinda like when religious conservatives tells their gay friends that they "love the sinner, hate the sin." They're often shocked when their gay friends get upset because, hey, they were making a distinction between the person (lovable!) and the person's actions (not so much!). But gay people feel insulted by "love the sinner, hate the sin" because it is insulting. Likewise, my use of "pansy-assed" was insulting, it was name-calling, and it was wrong. And I apologize for saying it..."
There's more. It's worth reading.
His apology seems to be insincere. He knew the audience and to use that kind of language and try to defend what is a clear Biblical teachings is inexcusable.
The homosexual community feels insulted by any rejection of their lifestyle and having it called a sin. Love the sinner and hat the sin is a perfectly good way to express the Christian view.
That is debatable. You say it doesn't affect us so we shouldn't care? It very much DOES affect us when laws are changed and society redefines things we hold dear.
How does it affect you negatively, Viz?
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I never claimed to be perfect. I'm saying that it's ok to disagree and still be friends.
You claim to be perfect in that you said you NEVER use profanity or call people names, while getting upset with people for disagreeing with you.
No, he's not attacking (present tense) people. He acknowledges that, in that instance, he stepped over the line and he apologized for those comments. (You believe in forgiveness for those who ask it, but not for him?) What he does, present tense, is attack faulty arguments and hypocrisy.
Certainly you are not saying that conservative Christians (including yourself) never disagree with or attack other people's ideas, beliefs, or arguments?
His apology seems to be insincere. He knew the audience and to use that kind of language and try to defend what is a clear Biblical teachings is inexcusable.
The homosexual community feels insulted by any rejection of their lifestyle and having it called a sin. Love the sinner and hat the sin is a perfectly good way to express the Christian view.
It is insulting. But, it's well beyond just insult ... there is actual injury involved.
k, well i wouldn't get it twisted, homosexuals were being oppressed, by people calling themselves Christians, and although the pendulum will swing now so as to reflect even the militant ones, i think for the most part these people were just seeking equality, equal treatment. You might be fighting God here.
I don't think this post should be overlooked, but it has been.
I'm a citizen of this country. I have a right to have input in the political process and the laws we have.
How does anyone being gay, or having laws which protect them and their rights, negatively impact you?
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He has a right to disagree with me. You do, as well. But it's hypocritical to bully people and use profanities to protest bullying.
Yes, we've been through this. It's great that you are perfect in this regard. Not everyone, including conservative Christians, are so perfect. The man acknowledged that his comments in this video were out of line, and apologized.
How does anyone being gay, or having laws which protect them and their rights, negatively impact you?
He already told you, it negatively impacts things he "holds dear." The fact that the things he "holds dear" negatively impact others in very real ways for NO good reason is not a factor to him.
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