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Old 10-31-2016, 02:03 PM
 
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His eyes are the angels?
Meaning that angels report to God what is happening on Earth.
If God was present everywhere,why did he send angels to investigate Sodom and Gomorrah?
Good question ^ above ^ because God has His fixed home location - 1 Kings 8:39,49
God also sends forth His spirit - Psalm 104:30
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Old 10-31-2016, 02:05 PM
 
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So what's the difference between "God" (who is said to be "spirit") and "God's spirit"? When God "sends forth His spirit," does His spirit leave Him?
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Old 10-31-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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God cannot be responsible for bad if he is not everywhere and does not rule the world.
The ' world to come ' (Jesus 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth) is Not yet here - Matthew 12:32.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 has Satan as the 'god' of this world of badness.- 1st John 5:19; Ecclesiastes 8:9
It is Satan who brings ' woe' to Earth according to Revelation 12:2,9
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Old 10-31-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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The ' world to come ' (Jesus 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth) is Not yet here - Matthew 12:32.
2nd Corinthians 4:4 has Satan as the 'god' of this world of badness.- 1st John 5:19; Ecclesiastes 8:9
It is Satan who brings ' woe' to Earth according to Revelation 12:2,9
Yet, the God I know SO LOVED THE WORLD...
So following this logic that it is a world of BADNESS, does that god LOVE EVIL and BADNESS??
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Old 10-31-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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So what's the difference between "God" (who is said to be "spirit") and "God's spirit"? When God "sends forth His spirit," does His spirit leave Him?
Isn't God a Spirit person ? ______- Hebrews 9:24
In English we speak of spirits such as angelic spirits, but we also speak of the spirit of life, or school spirit, or even a high-spirited horse. Jesus said we should worship in spirit - John 4:23-24. We do Not have to be a spirit person to have a spirited worship. As a pep rally is designed to create school spirit, the Scriptures can create in us a spirited or lively active worship.

God's spirit is neuter - Numbers 11:17,25 - as His spirit is an ' it'.
In English we speak of a car or a ship as a ' she' although 'it' remains as a neuter ' it '.
Some versions have changed ' itself ' at Romans 8:16,20 to 'himself', but that change does Not change God's spirit from being a neuter.

Since the Bible compares holy spirit to water - Isaiah 44:3 - then when God ' pours out ' His spirit a person can be filled with holy spirit or full of holy spirit - Acts 2:4; 2:18; 4:8; 9:17; 11:22,24; 13:9.
Scripture talks of being filled with wisdom, understanding, knowledge but never as filled with another person.
- Exodus 28:3; 1 Kings 7:14; Luke 2:40; Colossians 1:9

Isn't the Greek word translated as spirit from the word pneu'ma? which pneu'ma primarily denotes the wind and breath. Like breath or the wind invisible but an immaterial powerful force which God uses.
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Old 10-31-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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Isn't the Greek word translated as spirit from the word pneu'ma? which pneu'ma primarily denotes the wind and breath. Like breath or the wind invisible but an immaterial powerful force which God uses.
Yes, the Greek word "pneuma" is often translated as "spirit," but can also be translated as "breath" or even as "life." What I am asking, though, has to do with what you believe happens when God sends His spirit out. In other words, does it leave Him? And do you see "God" and "God's spirit" as being synonyms?
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Old 10-31-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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Yet, the God I know SO LOVED THE WORLD...
So following this logic that it is a world of BADNESS, does that god LOVE EVIL and BADNESS??
Good question ^ above ^. God so loved the world ( of mankind )
Notice, loved the world tracing back to named Abel -> Matthew 23:35

The badness Adam, Eve and Cain did is Not part of God 'so loved the world' that God sent his Son to die for us.
If we do Not want to be classed as part of the world of badness, then we need to 'repent ' so as Not to ' perish ' (be destroyed) as the wicked will be: destroyed forever - Psalm 92:7; 2nd Peter 3:9
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Old 10-31-2016, 02:58 PM
 
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Yes, the Greek word "pneuma" is often translated as "spirit," but can also be translated as "breath" or even as "life." What I am asking, though, has to do with what you believe happens when God sends His spirit out. In other words, does it leave Him? And do you see "God" and "God's spirit" as being synonyms?
God is a person - Hebrews 9:24
God's spirit is Not a person - Numbers 11:17,25
Things 'happen' when God sends forth His spirit -> Psalm 104:30; Acts 2:33; 4:31; 2nd Peter 1:21
God's spirit is found in Scripture - John 15:26-27; John 17:17 - Not as a person, but as an energizing force for good.
As radio waves are Not a person, but transmits a message, God's spirit transmits or communicates His will to us.
In the name of 'scriptural common sense', we baptise in the name of the spirit.
In the ' name of the law ', so to speak, given at Matthew 28:18-20 we baptise to do God's will.
So, with authority and in recognition of God's spirit people are baptised and follow the way of Jesus.
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Old 10-31-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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I would argue that He is ontologically omnipresent without necessarily being functionally omnipresent.
Can you explain why you believe this, Mystic? I'm curious about your perspective.
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Old 10-31-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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Up until maybe 5 days ago, i thought God was omnipresent.

1. I was taught that God is not the ruler of the world by JW.
2. So really, people cannot blame God for evil because he does not rule the world.
3. God does not intervene in this world unless to help those who serve him.
I agree with this mostly...
except He doesn't intervene unless asked...like inviting
the Landlord in that couldn't come in otherwise....even tho, it is his property.
Serving? Not part of the equation.

All of the above has nothing to do with His omnipresence, btw.
He is the Witness...the Divine Observer...He (Who has no gender) does
not live in duality, nor time and space...what you see as 'bad' is neither bad nor good to 'Him'.
It just 'is'.

This will start a fire storm..God sent Jesus to live for us and teach us..not die...
and besides that there is no death, either....
just an aside, bec of posts here.

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