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Old 11-15-2016, 05:13 AM
 
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No bro, it's not about an us and them, it's ALL INCLUSIVE; it's the way He designed the whole pattern which includes US. Peace
Does it really include "them?"
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Old 11-15-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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US, meaning, everyone that draws a breath. That's what all inclusive means. Peace
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Old 11-15-2016, 06:44 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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yes, but does it really include them, though, really
when push comes to shove
when your rubber meets the road
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Does it really include "them?"
yes, "does it?
no," it does


so your hearing that too huh
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Old 11-15-2016, 06:56 AM
 
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oh. ya, i can't read, i guess. i keep getting glimpses of retribution from you
well, they are useless, if those you contend with have a different one, though
Not really. No Lexicon is complete anymore than any dictionary of English is. They do not conflict though some are influenced by theology, they may be briefer due to size considerations, abbreviated as it were. Some like Strong's only cover the meanings used in the KJV, even if not accurate.

The more you use the broader your understandings, and then you need grammars to understand which meaning fits the grammar.

Brief examples in Greek; the neuter gender never refers to a being, rather a thing. The masculine or feminine gender words do not distinguish between male and female when used. If that is not known a wrong understanding can occur.
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:00 AM
 
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BUT if the bible is infallible and the translations are inspired of GOD, how can there be any confusion and why would anyone need 6 lexicons to decipher GOD'S INSPIRED book?
The originals were inspired, the copies can contain some errors, but generally in the vast majority of the cases spelling errors and with all the copies we have we can determine easily what was originally said. Confusion comes from man's interpretation (Weeds/tares) and Satan's influence.

No translation is inspired.
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:03 AM
 
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Not really. No Lexicon is complete anymore than any dictionary of English is. They do not conflict though some are influenced by theology, they may be briefer due to size considerations, abbreviated as it were. Some like Strong's only cover the meanings used in the KJV, even if not accurate.

The more you use the broader your understandings, and then you need grammars to understand which meaning fits the grammar.

Brief examples in Greek; the neuter gender never refers to a being, rather a thing. The masculine or feminine gender words do not distinguish between male and female when used. If that is not known a wrong understanding can occur.
hmm. if your model assumes that a Christian Patriot is not an oxymoron, and mine does, then we have other...tongues issues, hiding in plain sight
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:06 AM
 
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BUT if the bible is infallible and the translations are inspired of GOD, how can there be any confusion and why would anyone need 6 lexicons to decipher GOD'S INSPIRED book?
who said the Book was infallible? could you bring them here, and have them say that to me? ty

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The originals were inspired, the copies can contain some errors, but generally in the vast majority of the cases spelling errors and with all the copies we have we can determine easily what was originally said. Confusion comes from man's interpretation (Weeds/tares) and Satan's influence.

No translation is inspired.
nice single!

oh, but he steps off the bag and gets tagged!

lol
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:09 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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why do i have this like deja vu` thing alla sudden,
that hasn't even happened yet
where Z is gonna tell me
that you are the guy
who is gonna tell me
that the Book is infallible


: toofunny
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Old 11-15-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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US, meaning, everyone that draws a breath. That's what all inclusive means. Peace
So that means the LGBT community has a place on the heaven bound train!!
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Old 11-15-2016, 08:16 AM
 
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The originals were inspired, the copies can contain some errors, but generally in the vast majority of the cases spelling errors and with all the copies we have we can determine easily what was originally said. Confusion comes from man's interpretation (Weeds/tares) and Satan's influence.

No translation is inspired.
So following that logic, NO translation is ACCURATE and the written word CANNOT be relied upon to revel the true nature of God...
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