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Sure as long as the beasts are of age and have the ability to provide informed consent. Which would mean never.
If the beast is having sex, then it's giving consent. Nevertheless, I find your parameters amusing as though the homosexualists have the moral high ground to establish said parameters while rejecting others; oh, the paradox.
If the beast is having sex, then it's giving consent. Nevertheless, I find your parameters amusing as though the homosexualists have the moral high ground to establish said parameters while rejecting others; oh, the paradox.
That's the stupidest thing I've read in this forum - among thousands of stupid posts.
Isn't the 'requirement' for referring to one's self as a Christian 'to love one another' rather than the need to believe in the Bible? The Bible is a book. It just sits there on the shelf until someone picks it up to read it. It has no supernatural power to fly off the shelf into somebody's hands.
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Your brand of Christianity is false. The Bible is the Word of God. Even Jesus showed how He used the exact words to combat Satan. I believe you have told me in the past that you think Satan and the demonic realm are fiction which is a dangerous belief that shows how far off the reservation you are from mainstream Christianity.
Are you referring to Matthew 4:1-11? How do you know that this actually happened and isn't just an allegory? It certainly sounds scripted. Moreover, unless Jesus was followed around by a stenographer ...who was witness to this story and who actually wrote it down ...Jesus? Don't you ever question these things, Jeff?
But yes, you are correct. I don't believe in Satan and any demonic realm. And, I have no idea why my disbelief in this would be dangerous as you say. Do I have to believe in Satan to qualify as a good person? Perhaps you can enlighten me.
As for the Bible being the word of God. I have no idea whether it is or isn't ...same as you.
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Moreover, no one believes and adheres to everything they read in the Bible, and that would include you, Jeff. SO, my bolded part of your post is tantamount to your saying that most Christians have no desire to see gay people suffer or be put to death simply by virtue of their (gay people) not believing that THIS is what the Bible commands! That wouldn't be fair, would it, Jeff?[/color]
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I believe the Bible is the complete Word of God.
Yes, so you keep on saying. But you don't know that it is. Belief and knowing are two different things.
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Is it meant to be taken 100% literal? Of course not. There is language techniques and metaphors which are pretty obvious. I don't believe God sits on a giant throne chair for example. Christians don't want to see anyone suffer, period. We are even called to love those who hurt us where sinful man would desire revenge.
What is literal in the Bible and what is not, Jeff? There appears to be no specific criteria for determining what is and what is not literal. And, Christians abound who, even if covertly, would like to see people suffer for certain offenses. I'm sure that some, even many, would get ringside seats to watch the 'enemies of God' writhe in agony in hell-fire if they could. Hate-filled human beings exist regardless of what label they might apply to themselves.
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If we're to believe (as you say above) Leviticus 20:13 from the very Bible YOU claim to believe in and affiliate that passage with homosexuality (as you do) then you also believe that homosexuals should be put to death as commanded by God. You can't just pick and choose, Jeff, even though you do.
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You are the one picking and choosing. You have to look at the entire context. The laws in Leviticus were part of the Old Covenant that Jesus fullfilled with his death. Jesus paid the price for our sins so it doesn't even make sense why we would still be called to judge and punish sinners. The debt has been paid. That would be like making a criminal stand trial again after he has served his time in prison.
Hmmmm. So you're saying that you're NOT one of those who refers homosexual people to Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 because this was part of the Old Covenant that was nailed to the cross?
Stupidity accompanied by a thuggish lack of morality angers me.
Homosexuality and morality are polar opposites.
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