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Old 11-30-2016, 12:24 AM
 
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Matthew genealogy
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and Jacob the father of Joseph, the father of Adam, the father of Mary,
and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:01 PM
 
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RESPONSE: I'm curious how this claim originated. Women are not included in genealogies since tribal affiliations are exclusively masculine.

Besides the begetting of the person was always from male "seed" (sperm) which the female lacked

The female merely nurtured the developing offspring provided that she was "fertile" and not "barren."

Also Mary is no mentioned in either Matthew's or Luke's genealogies.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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What verse are you trying to reference?

Matthew 1:16 reads "and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ. "
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthe...Missing_person
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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Matthew 1:16
and Jacob the father of Joseph, the father of Adam, the father of Mary who is called the Messiah from whom came Jesus

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Matthew 1:16 Interlinear: and Jacob begat Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was begotten Jesus, who is named Christ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthe...Missing_person
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:29 PM
 
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RESPONSE: I'm curious how this claim originated. Women are not included in genealogies since tribal affiliations are exclusively masculine.

Besides the begetting of the person was always from male "seed" (sperm) which the female lacked

The female merely nurtured the developing offspring provided that she was "fertile" and not "barren."

Also Mary is no mentioned in either Matthew's or Luke's genealogies.
It stems purely from an attempt within mainstream Christianity to make up forty-two generations because according to the purely physical minded understanding of the passage there cannot be counted forty-two generations, (while the passage clearly states that there are indeed forty-two generations). It is amazingly profound that mainstream Christianity cannot even make it past the first chapter of the first book in the N/T without a contradiction in their theology.
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Old 11-30-2016, 11:06 PM
 
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So why are you altering the text? I don't get what you're trying to say.
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Old 12-01-2016, 04:19 AM
 
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It stems purely from an attempt within mainstream Christianity to make up forty-two generations because according to the purely physical minded understanding of the passage there cannot be counted forty-two generations, (while the passage clearly states that there are indeed forty-two generations). It is amazingly profound that mainstream Christianity cannot even make it past the first chapter of the first book in the N/T without a contradiction in their theology.
The scribes of old had a rather peculiar way of keeping track of generations. For example the genealogy in the fifth chapter of Genesis is incomplete, another in the first nine chapters of 1Chronicles is incomplete and so is Ezra 7:1-5.

That kind of record-keeping makes no sense whatsoever to the academic mind, but when encountering ancient cultures, it's best not to jump to conclusions.

BTW: I have no clue why you insist upon putting the blame on "mainstream Christianity" when both the old and new testaments of the Bible were written by Jews. But it's certain you will make no progress in your attempt to discredit the Bible by jousting windmills.

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Old 12-01-2016, 04:30 AM
 
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The scribes of old had a rather peculiar way of keeping track of generations. For example the genealogy in the fifth chapter of Genesis is incomplete, another in the first nine chapters of 1Chronicles is incomplete and so is Ezra 7:1-5.

That kind of record-keeping makes no sense whatsoever to the academic mind, but when encountering ancient cultures, it's best not to jump to conclusions.

BTW: I have no clue why you insist upon putting the blame on "mainstream Christianity" when both the old and new testaments of the Bible were written by Jews. But it's certain you will make no progress in your attempt to discredit the Bible by jousting windmills.

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Was I indeed discrediting "the Bible"? Where did I say anything about discrediting the scripture? There are exactly forty-two generations in the first chapter of Matthew the way it stands right now, (as I read it).
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