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This universe exists inside a computer.
The real world is nothing like this universe.
In the real world space doesn't exist and there are no conservation laws of any kind.
In the real world there is no limit to the size a computer can Grow.
That's a rather dogmatic assertion. The 2016 Isaac Asimov Memorial debate addressed the subject of whether our universe is a computer simulation. It was hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson and the panel consisted of Professor of philosophy David Chalmers, Nuclear physicist Zohreh Davoudi, Professor of physics James Sylvester Gates, Theoretical physicist Lisa Randall, and Astro physicist at MIT Max Tegmark.
After an interesting and at times entertaining two hour discussion, when Tyson asked what each of them thought the likelihood was that our universe is a simulation, Chalmers said 42%, Davoudi gave a no answer, Gates said 1%, Randall said 0%, and Tegmark said 17%. Only Tyson thought the likelihood that we are a simulation is very high.
It is physically impossible for the universe and even life to start with out a push start from the Creator God , as the elements do not change on their own
These threads - on the evidence for the Creation - are odd. Odd because either
1. There can't be any evidence, or
2. The notion of human free will is wrong, or
3. Our understanding of God - His abilities - is wrong.
If we understand what God is - that is, if the model of God being all-powerful, all-knowing, & so on is right, & if human free will is real - then there can't be any evidence for the Creation.
Because if we can correctly reason back from the Creation to God - then there isn't free will. & free will is a real necessity in Western Civ. theology - because that's where God gets off the hook for the existence of Evil in the World (in the Universe, really, I suppose).
Anyway, the question of evil is a big deal in theology - Western Civ. branch. Other theologies address this in other ways. The only logical approaches I see to this issue are to either attack the idea of free will, or attack Western Civ's notion of God - or both. But you only need one of these out; I would assume that free will would be the logical choice to attack, because the other is just plain unappetizing to Fundamentalist believers.
But that's just my take.
I don't believe in free will. If we all had free will, we would never be willing to be subjected to death and the whims of millions/billions of other "free willed" human beings. To me, the scriptures do not teach free will. Even the phrase "whosoever will" does not require freedom to choose. I realize this will not make sense to everyone reading.
That's a rather dogmatic assertion. The 2016 Isaac Asimov Memorial debate addressed the subject of whether our universe is a computer simulation. It was hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson and the panel consisted of Professor of philosophy David Chalmers, Nuclear physicist Zohreh Davoudi, Professor of physics James Sylvester Gates, Theoretical physicist Lisa Randall, and Astro physicist at MIT Max Tegmark.
After an interesting and at times entertaining two hour discussion, when Tyson asked what each of them thought the likelihood was that our universe is a simulation, Chalmers said 42%, Davoudi gave a no answer, Gates said 1%, Randall said 0%, and Tegmark said 17%. Only Tyson thought the likelihood that we are a simulation is very high.
I kind of hate to see Tyson go unhinged. I like so much of his work, but his atheist side is disappointing and of course that the history of the world or mankind is a computer simulation is laughable. Maybe he just says that to get a rise out of people because he knows so many people watch him, I dunno.
If this universe is inside a computer than the real Universe might be completely different. So different that it is actually easy to create a computer big enough to put our universe inside
I kind of hate to see Tyson go unhinged. I like so much of his work, but his atheist side is disappointing and of course that the history of the world or mankind is a computer simulation is laughable. Maybe he just says that to get a rise out of people because he knows so many people watch him, I dunno.
If you don't believe in God then you have to try to understand how everything began. I understand the reasoning behind the hypothesis of us being a simulation, which by the way is not actually necessarily an attempt to refute theism. I don't believe we're a simulation, but I don't ridicule the idea.
Last edited by Michael Way; 12-10-2016 at 09:35 AM..
The heavens declare the glory of God, And the firmament showeth His handiwork
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