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Old 12-06-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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Its about that time of year when we start seeing left behind series playing and all the other end of days movies playing on TBN and religious channels.

A large number of Christians continue to believe every year that "this could be the year Christ returns or the rapture happens. Remember the The Harbinger and the the Shemitah flops of last year?


Paul said Jesus CANT return until the anti Christ takes over first.

2 Thessalonians 2:2-4(NKJV)
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[b] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


Obama wasnt the antichrist, Trump isnt the antichrist and the Pope isnt the antichrist. No one knows who the antichrist will be and there is still more left to be fulfilled.


Matthew 24:29-31 (NKJV)
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.



Jesus was said to have died either 30AD or 33AD, so the absolute earliest he could ever return, if you believe in the whole 6000yrs and 1000 year millennium, would be 2023 if you a pre-trib rapture person or 2030 or 2033 if you believe in post-trib rapture o Matthew 24.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Change usually occurs through a crisis. Have you ever thought that maybe the son of perdition can take power in the aftermath of the chaos of the Rapture? The world will be desperate for someone to lead them, and will embrace flattering words to comfort themselves.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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Its about that time of year when we start seeing left behind series playing and all the other end of days movies playing on TBN and religious channels.

A large number of Christians continue to believe every year that "this could be the year Christ returns or the rapture happens. Remember the The Harbinger and the the Shemitah flops of last year?


Paul said Jesus CANT return until the anti Christ takes over first.

2 Thessalonians 2:2-4(NKJV)
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[b] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


Obama wasnt the antichrist, Trump isnt the antichrist and the Pope isnt the antichrist. No one knows who the antichrist will be and there is still more left to be fulfilled.


Matthew 24:29-31 (NKJV)
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.



Jesus was said to have died either 30AD or 33AD, so the absolute earliest he could ever return, if you believe in the whole 6000yrs and 1000 year millennium, would be 2023 if you a pre-trib rapture person or 2030 or 2033 if you believe in post-trib rapture o Matthew 24.
Based on statistical probability, Jesus will not be returning in your lifetime. Your children shouldn't get their hopes up either.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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Its about that time of year when we start seeing left behind series playing and all the other end of days movies playing on TBN and religious channels.

A large number of Christians continue to believe every year that "this could be the year Christ returns or the rapture happens. Remember the The Harbinger and the the Shemitah flops of last year?


Paul said Jesus CANT return until the anti Christ takes over first.

2 Thessalonians 2:2-4(NKJV)
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[b] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


Obama wasnt the antichrist, Trump isnt the antichrist and the Pope isnt the antichrist. No one knows who the antichrist will be and there is still more left to be fulfilled.


Matthew 24:29-31 (NKJV)
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.



Jesus was said to have died either 30AD or 33AD, so the absolute earliest he could ever return, if you believe in the whole 6000yrs and 1000 year millennium, would be 2023 if you a pre-trib rapture person or 2030 or 2033 if you believe in post-trib rapture o Matthew 24.
The Millennium follows the second advent of Jesus and therefore has no bearing on when He will return. The rapture of the church could have occured at any time after the church-age began. The pre-trib view is that the rapture of the church precedes the Tribulation which precedes the second advent of Christ which precedes the establishment of the Millennial kingdom.

The rapture could occur at any time, although it's true that it could still be some time before it does occur. While the Tribulation must come before Christ returns to establish His kingdom on the earth, there is no prophecy which must occur before the rapture of the church.

Once the church is raptured, then, probably after some interval of time, the Tribulation will begin, and then at the end of the Tribulation Jesus will return and set up His kingdom on the earth.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:40 AM
 
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Change usually occurs through a crisis. Have you ever thought that maybe the son of perdition can take power in the aftermath of the chaos of the Rapture? The world will be desperate for someone to lead them, and will embrace flattering words to comfort themselves.
Son of perdition is in all people, when John the Baptist had his head cut off, an angel having a great chain of authority came to John and he grasp hold of the son of perdition within John and that fallen spirit which was to lead the body was then locked up. John then made his crossing of the waters where Jesus came down and saved him from the waters in his crossing. The concept of the son of perdition, the lawless son was always around way before Christ came, but everyone is looking for one particular man when he is in everyone.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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Its about that time of year when we start seeing left behind series playing and all the other end of days movies playing on TBN and religious channels.

A large number of Christians continue to believe every year that "this could be the year Christ returns or the rapture happens. Remember the The Harbinger and the the Shemitah flops of last year?


Paul said Jesus CANT return until the anti Christ takes over first.

2 Thessalonians 2:2-4(NKJV)
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[b] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


Obama wasnt the antichrist, Trump isnt the antichrist and the Pope isnt the antichrist. No one knows who the antichrist will be and there is still more left to be fulfilled.


Matthew 24:29-31 (NKJV)
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.



Jesus was said to have died either 30AD or 33AD, so the absolute earliest he could ever return, if you believe in the whole 6000yrs and 1000 year millennium, would be 2023 if you a pre-trib rapture person or 2030 or 2033 if you believe in post-trib rapture o Matthew 24.

But if no one knows the time, how can anyone estimate the time?????
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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I am suggesting all the people waiting on the rapture sit calmly and hold their breath--JESUS is coming soon...I PROMISE... (He just told me it would be SOON)






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFlPdNJAdOY
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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Sorry, i just had to do some quick calculating and number crunching.




The question is, when will we see the Lord, breaking the Eastern sky in all His glory..


The answer is found right here in Detroit...

The answer is heard at the 2:34 mark...






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFv-aS3E4nI
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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Jesus was said to have died either 30AD or 33AD, so the absolute earliest he could ever return, if you believe in the whole 6000yrs and 1000 year millennium, would be 2023 if you a pre-trib rapture person or 2030 or 2033 if you believe in post-trib rapture o Matthew 24.
... assuming that we count days the same way God does... with the same consistently over a period of time that God does...
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:15 PM
 
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But if no one knows the time, how can anyone estimate the time?????


Jesus explained the 7 years over and over.


After Messiah is cut off for the sins of the world, his spirit comes and then it departs from the temple which leaves us with a 7 year covenant that Revelation explains in it's 7 years divided in half, and when you come to the middle of those 7 years, you are supposed to see the abomination of desolation in your own being, and then you give birth and become a new creature able to finish those 7 years at the second coming of Jesus IN YOU.




Daniel 9


27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Jesus talked about this abomination of desolation when he was explaining how a person comes up to Rosh Hashanah{The day no man knows} but he says,'' LET THE READER UNDERSTAND.''


Because Jesus begins speaking in the fact that his body was the Temple, and when he was showing things of the Temple, he is speaking about his Body, and you are that Temple where the abomination of desolation has to be overcome, hence, the entire meaning of overcoming.


Here is the person who has come to the middle of their week within a 7 year covenant of trying to overcome the serpent when his head wound would be healed.


Revelation is strictly speaking about a person's walk with God in making a transition from one season to the next and realizing the son of perdition inside yourself, and you have to overcome HIM.




The Woman and the Dragon


1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.






People are taking Holy days, traditions and rituals of God that they have never heard of and they are trying to figure out what happens on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur without ever knowing these days or what is happening on these days because they have shunned the knowledge of the feasts of Christ and yet they want to talk about Jewish feasts that they shun, how do people take ancient concepts to mold them into something new just because they have never heard of these traditions?


Just as is done with the 666 in your forehead, being sealed in your forehead against Yom Kippur is an ancient tradition IN LAW that if you keep the Sabbaths of God and the feasts of Jesus and the law is always on your lips, then you receive the mark in your forehead that protects you against the judgment of Yom Kippur, and everyone and they grandma will act as if this tradition set in law thousands of years ago is something new because they didn't know a person is sealed in his forehead and right hand and they are just making things up. Whatever Holy days you keep, they mark you and if you are keeping Babylonian Holy days like Saturnalia and weeping for Tammuz at Easter, then you have the seal of Babylon in your forehead and right hand but if you keep the feasts of God about his son, you are keeping the feasts of Jerusalem and you receive the mark in your forehead because you keep the Sabbaths of God.


And you tell and show this to people and it is like they are blinded, even after you show them laws and traditions set in stone for thousands of Years and practiced by millions of people, they still act as if being marked in your forehead is a literal mark, and not ancient tradition, they still act as if anyone could possibly change the name of the Babylonian Messiah when you simply cannot change his name. His Name is Tammuz and it will always be Tammuz no matter what you calculate, the Messiah of Babylon is so named,'' Tammuz,'' and you are going to change that, ancient tradition just doesn't go away cause you never heard of it, or that you never studied the law, it is the law and it is not going to be changed by Christians seeking a devil and calculating a name.
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