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Old 02-05-2017, 01:46 AM
 
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I know the bible talks about sin and not breaking the rules and if you break the rules you than sin. I know it talks about Heaven and Hell.

But it seems to spend well more time talking about the person and for the person not to sin. But can bad souls, demons, evil cause the person to sin?

What do these bad souls, demons and evil want? Do they what you to sin or to cause pain or suffering? Can hell being well spirit world or other dimension or what ever you want to call it can also cause some people to sin?

What do these bad souls, demons and evil want? Or are there different bad souls, demons and evil that want different things.

What does the bible say about the bad souls, demons and evil? And what do they want and what are they doing?
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:07 AM
 
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The bible does not refer to demons , but calls all these evil spirits, devil and satan , the term demons comes through spiritual understanding through Jesus Holy Spirit who discerns these spirits of the flesh ...............................Like John 8:44 .Jesus say to evil people ...``You are of your father the devil , and you want to do the desires of your father , as He was a murderer from the beginning , and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him ..When ever he speaks a lie , he speaks from his own nature , for he is a liar and the father of lies ``......... See these demons have spiritual authority in evil people with evil ideas and these spirit can live in people and stay there unseen and do influence evil people to do evil and will influence people to ignore truth for their selfish interests ..............................Then in Luke 10 Jesus has his disciples blind demons ......``The Lord appointed seventy two others and sent then two ahead of him to every town and place he was about to go ``..... In Verse 17 ``The seventy two returned with joy and said `Lord even the demons submit to us in your name `` .............. See through the name of Jesus people can bind and loose demons and fallen angels out of people spiritual and be free of these but people need the baptism of Holy Spirit were power will come .....
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:49 AM
 
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The bible does not refer to demons , but calls all these evil spirits, devil and satan... .....
You are misinformed here...
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Old 02-05-2017, 05:26 AM
 
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The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. - John 10:10

Jesus came to destroy all the works of the devil. 1John 3:8
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Old 02-05-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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You can't put much stock in any Bible story because the authors were using characters to represents aspects of a person. Even God and Satan are just two aspects of a personality. And the stories in the Bible, while good, are no better than any other popular story.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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Just to clarify, sin is any unfaithfulness against the Lord. It is not necessarily breaking the rules.

Can outside entities cause a person to sin? Yes... See Adam and Eve in Genesis 3.

Jesus indicates they want to steal, kill, and destroy. The end will be in the lake of fire (Revelation 20).
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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I know the bible talks about sin and not breaking the rules and if you break the rules you than sin. I know it talks about Heaven and Hell.
But it seems to spend well more time talking about the person and for the person not to sin. But can bad souls, demons, evil cause the person to sin?
What do these bad souls, demons and evil want? Do they what you to sin or to cause pain or suffering? Can hell being well spirit world or other dimension or what ever you want to call it can also cause some people to sin?
What do these bad souls, demons and evil want? Or are there different bad souls, demons and evil that want different things.
What does the bible say about the bad souls, demons and evil? And what do they want and what are they doing?
Besides heaven and hell, the bible talks about Gehenna.
Gehenna is often translated into English as the words hell or hellfire.
Whereas Gehenna was simply a garbage pit where things were destroyed forever and Not kept burning forever.
Heaven being God's home, and 'biblical hell' then being the temporary grave for mankind. - John 11:11-14
The day Jesus' died Jesus went to the Bible's temporary hell or grave for the sleeping dead - Acts 2:27
The dead know nothing according to Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; Ecclesiastes 9:5
If biblical hell was a permanent place then Jesus would still be in hell.
Satan is the father ' birth giver ' of the lie according to John 8:44
That is why a 'religious-myth of a forever burning hell ' is often taught as being Scripture when Not Scripture.
Satan was never in hell and never will be in hell. Jesus will destroy Satan - Hebrew 2:14 B
Satan and those like him will end up in ' second death '- Revelation 21:8
What demonic bad souls want is also our destruction - Psalms 92:7
The world is full of demonic propaganda luring us to do wrong.
Satan and his demons being kind of like 'puppeteers behind the scenes' trying to get us to wrong.
They want to rob us of gaining 'everlasting life' as Jesus' promised - Matthew 5:5
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:27 PM
 
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Just to clarify, sin is any unfaithfulness against the Lord. It is not necessarily breaking the rules.
Can outside entities cause a person to sin? Yes... See Adam and Eve in Genesis 3.
Jesus indicates they want to steal, kill, and destroy. The end will be in the lake of fire (Revelation 20).
... and the definition of the lake of fire is defined at Revelation 20:13-14 as ' second death '
That includes Satan ending up in ' second death ' - Revelation 21:8
Jesus will destroy Satan - Hebrews 2:14 B
And since Satan ends up in ' second death' then ' second death ' is a fitting term for: destruction.
Destruction as in the wicked (Satan is wicked) will be 'destroyed forever' according to Psalm 92:7
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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Besides heaven and hell, the bible talks about Gehenna.
Gehenna is often translated into English as the words hell or hellfire.
Whereas Gehenna was simply a garbage pit where things were destroyed forever and Not kept burning forever.
Heaven being God's home, and 'biblical hell' then being the temporary grave for mankind. - John 11:11-14
The day Jesus' died Jesus went to the Bible's temporary hell or grave for the sleeping dead - Acts 2:27
The dead know nothing according to Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; Ecclesiastes 9:5
If biblical hell was a permanent place then Jesus would still be in hell.
Satan is the father ' birth giver ' of the lie according to John 8:44
That is why a 'religious-myth of a forever burning hell ' is often taught as being Scripture when Not Scripture.
Satan was never in hell and never will be in hell. Jesus will destroy Satan - Hebrew 2:14 B
Satan and those like him will end up in ' second death '- Revelation 21:8
What demonic bad souls want is also our destruction - Psalms 92:7
The world is full of demonic propaganda luring us to do wrong.
Satan and his demons being kind of like 'puppeteers behind the scenes' trying to get us to wrong.
They want to rob us of gaining 'everlasting life' as Jesus' promised - Matthew 5:5
The dead know nothing of what? They did not know they where in biblical hell? They did not know how long they would be in biblical hell? And if they would go to Heaven or Gehenna being hell for ever?
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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... and the definition of the lake of fire is defined at Revelation 20:13-14 as ' second death '
That includes Satan ending up in ' second death ' - Revelation 21:8
Jesus will destroy Satan - Hebrews 2:14 B
And since Satan ends up in ' second death' then ' second death ' is a fitting term for: destruction.
Destruction as in the wicked (Satan is wicked) will be 'destroyed forever' according to Psalm 92:7
I'm NOT sure I understand what you mean by second death? I thought Satan is in hell for ever?

Call it Gehenna as you call it. Not temporary hell but Gehenna hell for ever.
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