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Calculating resurrection day, had it taken place in 2017, is a snap.
First off: according to John 18:28 and John 19:13-14, Jesus was crucified on the day when the Jews were slaughtering Passover lambs and roasting them with fire ready to eat by sundown. According to the 12th chapter of Exodus; the date was Nissan 14 on the Jewish calendar; which, in 2017, corresponded to Monday, April 10 on the Gregorian calendar.
Jesus predicted that he would be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights (Matt 12:40).
The preponderance of evidence indicates that his dead body returned to life on the third day rather than during the third night (Matt 17:22-23, Mark 9:31, Luke 9:22, Luke 24:46, Acts 10:40, 1Cor 15:4). So right off the bat we can rule out a nighttime resurrection. I.e.. Christ's dead body revived when the sun was up rather than when the sun was not up.
So then, seeing as how in 2017 Christ would have passed away during the afternoon of Monday, April 10 before sundown; then counting three nights from thence would put his dead body returning to life on Thursday, April 13 before sundown.
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Due to certain women arriving at the cemetery early in the morning on the third day, and thus discovering Jesus' body gone; then we should be pretty safe in concluding that Christ walked out of his grave sometime before noon.
NOTE: There's quite a bit of confusion going around related to the time of the women's arrival at the cemetery; for example Matt 28:1
"In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher."
The Greek word translated "came" is horribly ambiguous. It can not only mean came, but also went, i.e. it can indicate travel as well as arrival and/or coming as well as going. Here's the same verse from another translation.
"After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb."
Seeing as how the preponderance of evidence indicates that Jesus' dead body revived on the third day rather than during the third night, i.e. when the sun was up rather than when the sun was not up, then it's safe to conclude, in this case at least, that "went" is the appropriate translation of the Greek word erchomai, i.e. the sun was already up by the time the women arrived.
all the calculations of just "exactly" when the Resurrection happened are potentially interesting for discussion but in a sense possibly not that critically important for actually living a "Christian life" of faith, hope, and love for God and neighbor.
IMHO for the average Christian the most important thing is that they believe it REALLY happened at SOME point---Christ's victory over sin and death (WHENEVER it happened) gives them the faith and hope that they may (with the help of God's grace) share in that victory of "new" life by sharing with others the love, forgiveness, and healing they believe Christ has given them.
it's probably not what we "know"/believe but what we actually do with our knowledge/faith how it transforms our lives and our dealings with others that is likely most important.
OTOH, if there is no Resurrection, if the whole thing is myth, an allegory, a misunderstanding, or a deliberate lie then as Paul says, "...our preaching is WORTHLESS and your faith is, too.....(we) are still in our sins and...those who have already fallen asleep in Christ are DEAD. if our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to pitied more than all men" (1 Corinthians 12:12-15).
in the peace of the risen Christ.
(isn't it interesting---or scary, --- that the first three posters on this thread are apparently all from Oregon???)
Last edited by georgeinbandonoregon; 04-13-2017 at 12:42 PM..
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Calculating resurrection day, had it taken place in 2017, is a snap.
First off: according to John 18:28 and John 19:13-14, Jesus was crucified on the day when the Jews were slaughtering Passover lambs and roasting them with fire ready to eat by sundown. According to the 12th chapter of Exodus; the date was Nissan 14 on the Jewish calendar; which, in 2017, corresponded to Monday, April 10 on the Gregorian calendar.
Jesus predicted that he would be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights (Matt 12:40).
The preponderance of evidence indicates that his dead body returned to life on the third day rather than during the third night (Matt 17:22-23, Mark 9:31, Luke 9:22, Luke 24:46, Acts 10:40, 1Cor 15:4). So right off the bat we can rule out a nighttime resurrection. I.e.. Christ's dead body revived when the sun was up rather than when the sun was not up.
So then, seeing as how in 2017 Christ would have passed away during the afternoon of Monday, April 10 before sundown; then counting three nights from thence would put his dead body returning to life on Thursday, April 13 before sundown.
.
Due to certain women arriving at the cemetery early in the morning on the third day, and thus discovering Jesus' body gone; then we should be pretty safe in concluding that Christ walked out of his grave sometime before noon.
NOTE: There's quite a bit of confusion going around related to the time of the women's arrival at the cemetery; for example Matt 28:1
"In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher."
The Greek word translated "came" is horribly ambiguous. It can not only mean came, but also went, i.e. it can indicate travel as well as arrival and/or coming as well as going. Here's the same verse from another translation.
"After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb."
Seeing as how the preponderance of evidence indicates that Jesus' dead body revived on the third day rather than during the third night, i.e. when the sun was up rather than when the sun was not up, then it's safe to conclude, in this case at least, that "went" is the appropriate translation of the Greek word erchomai, i.e. the sun was already up by the time the women arrived.
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The resurrection is not in Jewish time. The resurrection has been counted several times including in the first 50 years. In actual fact, I have come to the conclusion that Jesus's resurrection is in eternal time. Not in the time frame of our world but happening in each person's life. In actual fact, Jesus is already resurrected, and can appear in our lives. Might there be last days where all of us also resurrect? Possibly. But there is no guarantee this is not also in eternal time. As it is, it appears that the Earth is becoming increasingly factionalized, so this could indeed be the last chapter. But only God knows for sure.
. Might there be last days where all of us also resurrect? Possibly. But there is no guarantee this is not also in eternal time. As it is, it appears that the Earth is becoming increasingly factionalized, so this could indeed be the last chapter. But only God knows for sure.
Rather, more than 'might' there be last days where all of us also resurrect. ( be resurrected that is )
As Acts 24:15 uses the ' future tense ' that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection.....
That ' resurrection day ' is 'Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth' when the dead will hear his voice.
So, the majority of mankind will have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection back to live life on Earth.
Jesus' ransom covers MANY according to Matthew 20:28. Only the wicked destroyed forever - Psalm 92:7
We are in the last days of badness on Earth as described at 2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.- Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.
Those of us who are still alive on Earth at the soon coming ' time of separation ' as mentioned at Matthew 25:31-33,37 can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth, starting with calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth begins. I'd like that first month to be called Shalom !
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--- that the first three posters on this thread are apparently all from Oregon???)
