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I have always wondered about the interpretation and opinion of others regarding this verse. It seems to state there are two types of believers:
1 Corinthians 7:22 For he who was called in the Lord while a slave, is the Lord's freedman; likewise he who was called while free, is Christ's slave.
I assume the separation is between Jew and Gentile.
Opinions?
Even if someone is a slave in the physical, worldy sense they can still obey and honor Christ but if that slave is a Christian then slave or not he is freer than anyone because that Christian is free from the worst bondage of all; sin but because we were purchased with the blood of Christ we are slaves of Christ.
Even if someone is a slave in the physical, worldy sense they can still obey and honor Christ but if that slave is a Christian then slave or not he is freer than anyone because that Christian is free from the worst bondage of all; sin but because we were purchased with the blood of Christ we are slaves of Christ.
Also, consider that a slave is free to devote himself/herself to One, without any care for their needs or welfare - that is their Master's concern.
Even if someone is a slave in the physical, worldy sense they can still obey and honor Christ but if that slave is a Christian then slave or not he is freer than anyone because that Christian is free from the worst bondage of all; sin but because we were purchased with the blood of Christ we are slaves of Christ.
Romans 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.
In Romans it is clear that they were slaves to sin so what kind of slave and freeman are they talking about in Corinthians?
Romans 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.
In Romans it is clear that they were slaves to sin so what kind of slave and freeman are they talking about in Corinthians?
Actually Romans points to freedom from sin; the benefit of being slaves to God is sanctification which the outcome is etrnal life.
In Corinthians the Lord's freedman is that no man is freer than a Christian. No bondage is terrible as that of sin from which Jesus frees the believer. So even if you are a slave in a temporal sense when Jesus frees you from the bondage of sin then you are truly free regardless of your circumstances in the physical world.
Actually Romans points to freedom from sin; the benefit of being slaves to God is sanctification which the outcome is etrnal life.
In Corinthians the Lord's freedman is that no man is freer than a Christian. No bondage is terrible as that of sin from which Jesus frees the believer. So even if you are a slave in a temporal sense when Jesus frees you from the bondage of sin then you are truly free regardless of your circumstances in the physical world.
That makes sense... so what do you make of this verse:
Romans 6: 7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
and why this verse if there isn't a deeper meaning to what is said:
Romans 6: 19 I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves.
That makes sense... so what do you make of this verse:
Romans 6: 7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
and why this verse if there isn't a deeper meaning to what is said:
Romans 6: 19 I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves.
Romans 6:7. I think its self explanatory, when we die a physical death and unified with Christ the battle between flesh and spirit is over and we are free from sin's control over us.
Romans 6:19 Paul was using a master/ slave analogy to appeal to their humaness understanding because in their sinful nature they would be unable to grasp divine truth.
Romans 6:7. I think its self explanatory, when we die a physical death and unified with Christ the battle between flesh and spirit is over and we are free from sin's control over us.
Romans 6:19 Paul was using a master/ slave analogy to appeal to their humaness understanding because in their sinful nature they would be unable to grasp divine truth.
True but verse 7 states that a person (not just a believer) is released from sin upon death. How does that fit with the slave/master analogy? What is the deeper meaning? Perhaps that serving God is a blessing rather than serving sin. Perhaps that the bible is about living life in the world rather than it's focus being on an afterlife?
True but verse 7 states that a person (not just a believer) is released from sin upon death. How does that fit with the slave/master analogy? What is the deeper meaning? Perhaps that serving God is a blessing rather than serving sin. Perhaps that the bible is about living life in the world rather than it's focus being on an afterlife?
I beg to differ but verse 7 is talking only about believers because they are the only ones who experience the warfare in their spirit and who will be unified with Christ. Unbelievers have no clue what sin is, as Paul said, He did not know sin nor the consequence or that they are being tirelessly, mercilessly controlled by sin and long for death to be free from its control.
There is a saying we use in America, "freedom is a God given right", that is not true. God doesn't care if you are free or not....er I mean please don't get me wrong God cares for our well being if it aligns with His will of saving us. If giving us freedom in a temporal sense inhibits our savation then why would He free us. As Christians we are citizens of heaven and aliens to this planet, we are to set our affections above that doesn't mean we shouldn't care about this world, far from it, our goal is to spread the gospel so people can be saved not just comforted and well fed heading to hell nicely clothed and with a full stomach whether it is feeding the poor, helping the sick but to preach His word because the ultimate goal is to seek and save the lost. We should not be trying to establish His kingdom here on earth because how can you have a kingdom without a king?
The master/ slave analogy is just what it says, No matter your predicament here on earth you are free because Jesus freed you, He purchased you with His blood and now you have been giving sactification and no matter how tough and rough you have it in the physical life you have spiritual freedom from sin and that is the best news anyone can receive.
Last edited by Fundamentalist; 12-02-2009 at 11:38 AM..
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