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Old 07-28-2023, 01:22 PM
 
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In Matthew 24, Jesus gave a clear-cut sign of the end times.

Matthew 24
[9] Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

In our generation, this Scripture is being fulfilled. In fulfillment of the first part of this Scripture, Christians are being afflicted and killed in many parts of the world, e.g., China, North Korea, Africa, Hindu and Islamic nations. In the Western world, Christians are not killed but rather are hated and ostracized because they resist the avalanche of sin being normalized, e.g., wicked entertainment, homosexuality, transgenderism, etc.., fulfilling the second part of the Scripture.

There is no other religion in the world that is hated of all nations like Christianity. It's time to brace yourselves, as it's going to get very tough for real Christians. Hold fast in your heart to the truth and testimony of Jesus Christ because the hour of His triumphant return is drawing very near. He gave us signs for a reason. Remember, Jesus rebuked the people of His day because they did not recognize the sign of His first coming.

Matthew 16
[1] The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.
[2] He [Jesus] answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
[3] And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
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Old 07-28-2023, 04:14 PM
 
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In Matthew 24, Jesus gave a clear-cut sign of the end times.

Matthew 24
[9] Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

In our generation, this Scripture is being fulfilled. In fulfillment of the first part of this Scripture, Christians are being afflicted and killed in many parts of the world, e.g., China, North Korea, Africa, Hindu and Islamic nations. In the Western world, Christians are not killed but rather are hated and ostracized because they resist the avalanche of sin being normalized, e.g., wicked entertainment, homosexuality, transgenderism, etc.., fulfilling the second part of the Scripture.

There is no other religion in the world that is hated of all nations like Christianity. It's time to brace yourselves, as it's going to get very tough for real Christians. Hold fast in your heart to the truth and testimony of Jesus Christ because the hour of His triumphant return is drawing very near. He gave us signs for a reason. Remember, Jesus rebuked the people of His day because they did not recognize the sign of His first coming.

Matthew 16
[1] The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.
[2] He [Jesus] answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
[3] And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
I'm going to make a covenant with you right here my love, as long as I'm alive and a witch I will stand by you side, hold your hand and support you with perfect love and perfect trust. that's my contract with you, that is my love for you too! There is no hate in my religion, I pray there is no hate in yours too!

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Old 07-28-2023, 04:28 PM
 
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The way some Christians behave, it doesn't surprise me at all that we will be hated by all nations. What are we doing to change how they perceive us?
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Old 07-28-2023, 06:55 PM
 
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We have been in 'the last days' going on about 2000 years now,
though Molech worship did seem to return/go mainstream around 1960's or so and we're now seeing the fruits of that.
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Old 07-29-2023, 11:23 AM
 
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The way some Christians behave, it doesn't surprise me at all that we will be hated by all nations. What are we doing to change how they perceive us?
Sadly, Katz, this concern for and desire for the "last days" almost seems like it is an ASPIRATION to be hated as a badge of their faith for some Christians!
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Old 07-29-2023, 11:44 AM
 
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The way some Christians behave, it doesn't surprise me at all that we will be hated by all nations. What are we doing to change how they perceive us?
Seems many forget John 13-35

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have alove one to another
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Old 07-29-2023, 12:21 PM
 
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Matthew 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come..

I believe that this prophecy does refer to the persecution of true believers, not of fake Christianity. Jesus says that they will be hated because of Him. Many will turn away from the faith and hate one another, with the rise of false prophets. Those who stand firm to the end, will be saved. I believe this refers to His elect before the coming of the Messianic Age or Millennial Age. God bless.
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Old 07-29-2023, 12:33 PM
 
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Matthew 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come..

I believe that this prophecy does refer to the persecution of true believers, not of fake Christianity. Jesus says that they will be hated because of Him. Many will turn away from the faith and hate one another, with the rise of false prophets. Those who stand firm to the end, will be saved. I believe this refers to His elect before the coming of the Messianic Age or Millennial Age. God bless.

I believe this too. But have not seen it happen literally as it is written, yet.

But I do experience it today. Figuratively or subjectively.

As I continue in my walk with Christ, I am becoming more and more detached from the terrestrial. And it would seem there is less enmity between me and my neighbor, and more enmity to everything else.

I am quite literally becoming an enemy of the staus quo.
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Old 07-29-2023, 12:51 PM
 
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95:10.19 (2086.5) If Christianity could only grasp more of Jesus’ teachings, it could do so much more in helping modern man to solve his new and increasingly complex problems.

195:10.20 (2086.6) Christianity suffers under a great handicap because it has become identified in the minds of all the world as a part of the social system, the industrial life, and the moral standards of Western civilization; and thus has Christianity unwittingly seemed to sponsor a society which staggers under the guilt of tolerating science without idealism, politics without principles, wealth without work, pleasure without restraint, knowledge without character, power without conscience, and industry without morality.

195:10.21 (2086.7) The hope of modern Christianity is that it should cease to sponsor the social systems and industrial policies of Western civilization while it humbly bows itself before the cross it so valiantly extols, there to learn anew from Jesus of Nazareth the greatest truths mortal man can ever hear—the living gospel of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man.
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Old 07-29-2023, 01:21 PM
 
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Matthew 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come..

I believe that this prophecy does refer to the persecution of true believers, not of fake Christianity. Jesus says that they will be hated because of Him. Many will turn away from the faith and hate one another, with the rise of false prophets. Those who stand firm to the end, will be saved. I believe this refers to His elect before the coming of the Messianic Age or Millennial Age. God bless.
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I believe this too. But have not seen it happen literally as it is written, yet.

But I do experience it today. Figuratively or subjectively.

As I continue in my walk with Christ, I am becoming more and more detached from the terrestrial. And it would seem there is less enmity between me and my neighbor, and more enmity to everything else.

I am quite literally becoming an enemy of the staus quo.
Yep, I have had that too

I think this is about where we decide to focus our own individual/personal attention and if we have counted the cost

The cost of following Jesus is to willingly give up our own type of affiliation and affection for the system while retaining understanding and empathy for the individuals within the systems

Shana I am not so hasty to think of it as fake Christianity it is more the external Christianity

All these threads relate to each other and we see the huge diversity and difference of the systems of Christianity by what people bring to the forum from their own particular part and perspective

I am not against Christianity per se as it has been needed/necessary to contain all the workers who have been labouring in the field over the past 2000 years, and also to educate them in various religious things

We are at the end of that particular period/age
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