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Old 10-22-2017, 07:42 PM
 
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Jehovah's Witness. One of them commented on this thread trying to stick up for the baker that refused to make a wedding cake for the gay couple. Same principle applies so I was shocked they did that. Unless something has changed in the 30 years since I left.
THat was the first church I attended in high school. Studied with them for a year.

They had a book called Live Forever in Paradise on Earth that predicted, exactly, the end of the world.

That has done gone and passed.

I did not attend any church for almost two decades afterwards.

Those people are the most depraved, horrific psychos I've ever came across.

Breaking up a family over the guy smoking cigarettes.

Ailenating his children from him. It was so sad.

I sat next to him at the Kingdom hall and was warned not to speak to him

Silly, that was my ex bus driver. Bunch of heretics. Left after giving the true gospel to them all in the van

Parents told my friends they couldn't talk to me

I am so sorry you endured all of that.

They come to my door from time to time but just parrott the same memorized verses.

Then leave deeming me some kind of something, any excuse not to hear the truth

I pray for a few friends that cult stole from me way back when

I've never encountered so much destruction of peoples souls since then
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:45 PM
 
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She most certainly did not.

And i would love to hear about a lawsuit for libel.
Give all the proceeds to charity. Like rape victims.
A lawsuit with no merit is very difficult to win.

She stated in court, in response to the judge, that no she would not comply with his order. This is a matter of public record. Feel free to look it up.
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:46 PM
 
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If you don't believe she violated Bible principles by breaking civil law when she had a choice not to we're not going to settle this. That's my whole point.
Her choice ends up costing the taxpayers 220K in damages as well. Davis had also taken an oath to do her job which she also broke. I wonder if Davis was Muslim would she be getting the same support from the same people?
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:48 PM
 
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If you don't believe she violated Bible principles by breaking civil law when she had a choice not to we're not going to settle this. That's my whole point.
Quit running in circles.
Are you going to confess with your lips?
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:50 PM
 
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Her choice ends up costing the taxpayers 220K in damages as well. Davis had also taken an oath to do her job which she also broke. I wonder if Davis was Muslim would she be getting the same support from the same people?
That's all.
I thought the judge would of recieved more than that.
But who's counting???
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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Her choice ends up costing the taxpayers 220K in damages as well. Davis had also taken an oath to do her job which she also broke. I wonder if Davis was Muslim would she be getting the same support from the same people?
She took an oath to do exactly what she did.

Problem came is when those Rulers later passed a law without FULL authority to do so.
they operate within Gods ordinances.
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:57 PM
 
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thats a pretty good question. according to Christian scriptures- a divorce is permitted with sexual immorality as the cause. ( the guy cheated? or the lady ? either? )

if no sexual immorality happened then his divorcing her causes her to commit adultery ( just because the guy leaves and says divorce does not mean God agreed )

further more a divorced woman can not be remarried at all with out the man marrying her becoming an adulator.. that's a pretty thin line...

so if the Christian baker or certificate clerk really were acting according to their scriptures... then logically they could deny same sex couples under the Constitution IF they also denied any couples that were on their 2nd or 3rd marriage...right?

I believe that incident was more of " those people aren't as good as these people" judgments and that's why it failed SO badly.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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A lawsuit with no merit is very difficult to win.

She stated in court, in response to the judge, that no she would not comply with his order. This is a matter of public record. Feel free to look it up.
Oh, please explain to all the readers here how this mertorious legal system of yours works.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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thats a pretty good question. according to Christian scriptures- a divorce is permitted with sexual immorality as the cause. ( the guy cheated? or the lady ? either? )

if no sexual immorality happened then his divorcing her causes her to commit adultery ( just because the guy leaves and says divorce does not mean God agreed )

further more a divorced woman can not be remarried at all with out the man marrying her becoming an adulator.. that's a pretty thin line...

so if the Christian baker or certificate clerk really were acting according to their scriptures... then logically they could deny same sex couples under the Constitution IF they also denied any couples that were on their 2nd or 3rd marriage...right?

I believe that incident was more of " those people aren't as good as these people" judgments and that's why it failed SO badly.
The thing is she wouldn't have the knowledge to deny such anyhow. So it never comes into play

No one asked me if I'd been married before and are now divorced when issuing the marriage license

It's not her job as a Christian to seek out past sin of others
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:09 PM
 
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thats a pretty good question. according to Christian scriptures- a divorce is permitted with sexual immorality as the cause. ( the guy cheated? or the lady ? either? )

if no sexual immorality happened then his divorcing her causes her to commit adultery ( just because the guy leaves and says divorce does not mean God agreed )

further more a divorced woman can not be remarried at all with out the man marrying her becoming an adulator.. that's a pretty thin line...

so if the Christian baker or certificate clerk really were acting according to their scriptures... then logically they could deny same sex couples under the Constitution IF they also denied any couples that were on their 2nd or 3rd marriage...right?

I believe that incident was more of " those people aren't as good as these people" judgments and that's why it failed SO badly.
Yes, this legal Hodge is a feign
With marriage recognised as male female. The courts actually have less confusion on rulling divorce cases.
Adultery, physical violence, are a few deciding factors.
Enter in a double variable and everything gets ugly.
Unless of course these judges basically just run a print mill and sit back on the back 9 Clubhouse vip. Suite.
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