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Old 10-21-2017, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee View Post
Adulterers weddings? that's a new one to me
A wedding in the bible takes place between one man and one woman

That should clear up the confusion.

Weddings celebrate marriages.

The bible is the orgin of where to locate the defintion of marriage

God created it. It is a covenant between two people AND GOD.

The definition of a marriage is the coming together of a man and a woman.

It's pretty simple.

It's not the coming together of man and a beast/animal

It's not the coming together of man and another man

It's not the coming together of man and a polygamist lady

It's not the coming together of man and a statue, a blow up doll, or any other sin humans can invent
He is probably talking about divorced people remarrying.
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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I don't support either but one of them is just flat out wrong. Figure out which one on your own
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:22 PM
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This is probably kind of far out, but what if someone wanted a baker to make a cake laced with poison, should the baker make it. If he did he could be held responsible for his actions in taking part in that request.
So, agreeing to do something against his conscience would make him feel guilty.
I'm genuinely surprised to see you take this position over the refusal to bake a cake. If the act of baking a cake offends this person conscience then the burden falls on the baker to go with his conscience while remaining in submission to civil authority (1 Peter 2:13-17). The baker easily could have done both by closing up shop or just not do any wedding cakes anymore. Those bakers put their business above their relationship with God. Only if there was no other choice should they defy the civil authority. They had a choice but they were unwilling to make it. The same with Kim Davis. There were other people who quit their jobs rather than issue same sex marriage certificates. They put their personal convictions above all else. I don't agree with their opinions but I can respect someone like that. Kim Davis and those bakers not only broke man's laws and God's.
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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He is probably talking about divorced people remarrying.
Ok thanks. Now I understand the OP

Good question
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:00 PM
 
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Ok thanks. Now I understand the OP

Good question
Yes, that is what I was asking about.

Kim Davis, for example, committed adultery and remained in an adulterous state with her second--and then third--husband.

But she refused to issue the marriage certificate to the same-sex couple "because of her sincerely held religious belief."
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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Yes, that is what I was asking about.

Kim Davis, for example, committed adultery and remained in an adulterous state with her second--and then third--husband.

But she refused to issue the marriage certificate to the same-sex couple "because of her sincerely held religious belief."
Ah, the presumtive accussation that Kim Davis committed adultry is the bases for the thread.
A certificate for Divorce is permitted if a spouse has committed adultry.
If Kim Davis divorced for this reason then the marriage was legally annulled. And if she remarried it is fine.
If this were the case she has not committed adultry.

The outright accussation is slander.
And libel.
Typically divorce records are sealed and not public record.
So if this be the case with Kim davis.
She can sue for libel.
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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Ah, the presumtive accussation that Kim Davis committed adultry is the bases for the thread.
A certificate for Divorce is permitted if a spouse has committed adultry.
If Kim Davis divorced for this reason then the marriage was legally annulled. And if she remarried it is fine.
If this were the case she has not committed adultry.

The outright accussation is slander.
And libel.
Typically divorce records are sealed and not public record.
So if this be the case with Kim davis.
She can sue for libel.
I just used her as an example.

I also mentioned the Christian wedding cake bakers.

They are likely baking cakes for adulterous unions, which would go against their sincerely held religious beliefs, but refusing to do so for ss unions.
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:28 PM
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Ah, the presumtive accussation that Kim Davis committed adultry is the bases for the thread.
A certificate for Divorce is permitted if a spouse has committed adultry.
If Kim Davis divorced for this reason then the marriage was legally annulled. And if she remarried it is fine.
If this were the case she has not committed adultry.

The outright accussation is slander.
And libel.
Typically divorce records are sealed and not public record.
So if this be the case with Kim davis.
She can sue for libel.
Yeah, I don't think it is slander Pin. According to the letter of the Bible law she probably is an adulteress. The Westboro Baptist Church went after her on the adultery thing. They are a bunch of lawyers so I doubt they would set themselves up like that. Maybe though, did she ever refute it? I thought the stance on that was she was already married to this husband when she was saved so all was forgiven. Technically though she is still committing adultery by staying with hubby 2/3 unless you are correct and her first husband cheated.

https://mic.com/articles/126929/west...cFB#.14JdYmKJ3

Edit: They also went after her on breaking her oath. They do have a point if you're into that kind of thing which Kim Davis clearly is.

Phelps-Roper said Monday that divorce and remarriage is equivalent to living in adultery and that Davis’ first marriage is her only legitimate union. If Davis has truly come to Christ, she would divorce her current husband and put her marriages in the past, Phelps-Roper said.

In the meantime, she argued that Davis is obligated to follow the law and issue licenses because “God hates oath breakers just like he hates adultery and he hates same-sex marriage.” Phelps-Roper said Davis should instead protest same-sex marriage on her own time.

Westboro members picketed at the courthouse for about 30 minutes before moving on to another demonstration at Morehead State University. Davis remained inside.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...avis/74220666/

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Old 10-21-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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Ah, the presumtive accussation that Kim Davis committed adultry is the bases for the thread.
A certificate for Divorce is permitted if a spouse has committed adultry.
If Kim Davis divorced for this reason then the marriage was legally annulled. And if she remarried it is fine.
If this were the case she has not committed adultry.

The outright accussation is slander.
And libel.
Typically divorce records are sealed and not public record.
So if this be the case with Kim davis.
She can sue for libel.
Anyone who divorces and marries another (while the former partner is still alive) commits adultery. Adultery is a sin punishable by death. Source: the Bible.
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:33 PM
 
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Anyone who divorces and marries another (while the former partner is still alive) commits adultery. Adultery is a sin punishable by death. Source: the Bible.
Wrong.
Yeshua spoke of this.
"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."
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