Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:06 PM
 
7,293 posts, read 4,094,821 times
Reputation: 4670

Advertisements

I'm thinking about the Christian bakers who refused to bake wedding cakes for same-sex weddings and the clerk who refused to issue the marriage certificate to a same-sex couple.

And what exactly is a sincerely held religious belief with regard to this topic?

Thanks and God bless.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:16 PM
 
10,020 posts, read 4,963,384 times
Reputation: 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by AguaDulce View Post
I'm thinking about the Christian bakers who refused to bake wedding cakes for same-sex weddings and the clerk who refused to issue the marriage certificate to a same-sex couple.
And what exactly is a sincerely held religious belief with regard to this topic?
Thanks and God bless.
Adultery can be forgiven according to Scripture, there is No provision but for Christian marriage - Genesis 2:24.
Fornication would be wrong for anyone straight or not.
Seems as if baking that cake in their minds would be the same as consenting or approving.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
8,166 posts, read 8,525,471 times
Reputation: 10147
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew 4:4 View Post
<>
Seems as if baking that cake in their minds would be the same as consenting or approving.
Huh?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
17,071 posts, read 10,918,865 times
Reputation: 1874
Demagogues.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:31 PM
 
7,293 posts, read 4,094,821 times
Reputation: 4670
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew 4:4 View Post
Adultery can be forgiven according to Scripture, there is No provision but for Christian marriage - Genesis 2:24.
Fornication would be wrong for anyone straight or not.
Seems as if baking that cake in their minds would be the same as consenting or approving.
What about, for example, a married person who has an affair with another married person and leaves his or her spouse for that person? How can they be forgiven if they remain in the new marriage?

And how could a Christian condone this and yet refuse to condone a non-adulterous same-sex union?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:46 PM
 
7,293 posts, read 4,094,821 times
Reputation: 4670
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew 4:4 View Post
Adultery can be forgiven according to Scripture, there is No provision but for Christian marriage - Genesis 2:24.
Fornication would be wrong for anyone straight or not.
Seems as if baking that cake in their minds would be the same as consenting or approving.
How is this relevant to my question?

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:49 PM
 
10,020 posts, read 4,963,384 times
Reputation: 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by AguaDulce View Post
What about, for example, a married person who has an affair with another married person and leaves his or her spouse for that person? How can they be forgiven if they remain in the new marriage?
And how could a Christian condone this and yet refuse to condone a non-adulterous same-sex union?
A non-adulterous 'sexual union ' is still, according to Scripture, as being fornication ( Porneia from the Greek )
Fornication is wrong for anyone.- 1st Corinthians 6:18
The married affair person is an adulterer and un-repentant adultery means Not to associate as found recorded at 1st Corinthians 5:9-13.
If the 1st spouse would also commit adultery that would free the ' new marriage ' to be forgiven.
In other words, there can be grounds for a ' scriptural divorce ' and the innocent mate refuses to continue the marriage.
Adultery/fornication on either part could break the marriage vow - Matthew 5:32; Matthew 19:9
Also, time could show genuine repenting - 2nd Peter 3:9.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:55 PM
 
10,020 posts, read 4,963,384 times
Reputation: 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by AguaDulce View Post
How is this relevant to my question?
Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
In the Bible, the only marriage is between man and woman. There is No provision for any other form of marriage.
Even if 'secular marriage' would allow marriage between same sex people or people with animals, that would never qualify as a scriptural God-given marriage arrangement.

Under Christ's coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth there will be healing for earth's nations according to Revelation 22:2. So, any thoughts out of harmony with Scripture will No longer be a problem.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:56 PM
 
439 posts, read 345,582 times
Reputation: 344
Quote:
Originally Posted by AguaDulce View Post
I'm thinking about the Christian bakers who refused to bake wedding cakes for same-sex weddings and the clerk who refused to issue the marriage certificate to a same-sex couple.

And what exactly is a sincerely held religious belief with regard to this topic?

Thanks and God bless.
Adulterers weddings? that's a new one to me
A wedding in the bible takes place between one man and one woman

That should clear up the confusion.

Weddings celebrate marriages.

The bible is the orgin of where to locate the defintion of marriage

God created it. It is a covenant between two people AND GOD.

The definition of a marriage is the coming together of a man and a woman.

It's pretty simple.

It's not the coming together of man and a beast/animal

It's not the coming together of man and another man

It's not the coming together of man and a polygamist lady

It's not the coming together of man and a statue, a blow up doll, or any other sin humans can invent
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-21-2017, 04:59 PM
 
10,020 posts, read 4,963,384 times
Reputation: 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crashj007 View Post
Huh?
This is probably kind of far out, but what if someone wanted a baker to make a cake laced with poison, should the baker make it. If he did he could be held responsible for his actions in taking part in that request.
So, agreeing to do something against his conscience would make him feel guilty.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top