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Old 10-30-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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500 years later Christianity is even more divided with @ 9,000 protestant denominations and counting.

We haven't had one church, one faith, one baptism since 1054. It's going to be a long road back to unity.
40 thousand plus, actually...
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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My facetiousness aside, I agree with this assessment 100%!
And also teaching them to hate the Jews...
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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We too are looking forward to the celebration. In fact I am sitting here trying to decide; do I go to church tis morning when I know i have a cold that I could spread to others because of the celebration, or do I sit at home and feel bad about missing this very special day to those of us who are part of the Lutheran denomination. We have watched the TV series on him, had another video (boring one) at church last Sunday and a wonderful article on him and the church, in our local paper yesterday.
and you are right, he never had intentions of pitting one against the other. This is like saying, any of us who have changed our religion wants to see our old one fail.
The birth being on evil Halloween, too...
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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And also teaching them to hate the Jews...

don't believe that any major Christian body teaches that kind of hateful nonsense and hasn't for quite some time. in fact here's what one of the Catholic prayers for the Good Friday liturgy that commemorates Christ's death on the cross for the salvation of the world says:


"let us pray for the Jewish people, the first to hear the word of God that they may continue to grow in love of His NAME and in faithfulness to His Covenant."


that great evil has been done to the Jews in the past by Christians is a sad truth---that this continues to be the policy or teaching implicit or explicit of the vast majority of Christians is not.


in the peace of Christ who calls on ALL Christians and Jews (and everybody else) to love God with their whole hearts, minds, and souls AND to love their neighbors (Jewish, Christian, or otherwise) as themselves.
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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I guess we can thank Mr Luther for the pitting of Protestants against Catholics for the last half millennium, for the love of Christ.
Most are on better terms with each other now. The Vatican (or probably Pope Benedict via executive order) has even issued a Martin Luther stamp: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/va...-martin-luther
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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The birth being on evil Halloween, too...
pagan holiday.
They do love to invent history.

sorcerors never change
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Old 10-30-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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And also teaching them to hate the Jews...
That's weird. Anti-Semitism had existed in the church teachings centuries before Martin Luther was born.
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Old 10-30-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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That's weird. Anti-Semitism had existed in the church teachings centuries before Martin Luther was born.
Since the second century if not before, but the point is well made that Martin Luther carried on that despicable tradition with a vengeance.
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Old 10-30-2017, 07:49 PM
 
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40 thousand plus, actually...
PFFFT. Last count by some measures us Protestants are up to about 90,000 denominations. I don't know where you get YOUR numbers.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:17 PM
 
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Whether it is 40,000 or 90,000 denominations, we can say that what Martin Luther did, rocked the church. We should be united as one faith.
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