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Why? Because it is a day that God has not commanded us to keep. It is like the strange fire offered to God in the Temple. We cannot decide our OWN way to worship God or celebrate Him. He said that OUR WAYS are sin. The festivals that God provided were shadows of things to come and were to be kept so that we would have knowledge of those events. Observing Christmas is vain.
Everyone is sinful but thee and me... and thou art suspect.
I don't celebrate Christmas. I celebrate with my life a Glorified Christ not the FLESH of Christ which profits nothing.
Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
That is one of the most ridiculous statements thus far, you don't celebrate Christmas, just your life gets celebrated with a glorified Christ where FLESH profits nothing.
If you celebrate with Christ, you had better believe you profit something, and it isn't just spiritual either. Such a tangent over nothing. All statements made in vain.
A winter birth just seems to be unaccountable.
Though there is a peculiar specific in the verses concerning Miriam (mary)
Purification: how many days would this be.
And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
Leviticus 12King James Version (KJV)
12 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
4 And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.
When it happened doesn’t matter. That it happened is what’s important.
A winter birth just seems to be unaccountable.
Though there is a peculiar specific in the verses concerning Miriam (mary)
Purification: how many days would this be.
And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
Leviticus 12King James Version (KJV)
12 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
4 And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.
In cronological order luke gives the detailed account of the birth of Yeshua and the Torah instruction for purification concerning Miriam.
Then after the advent given to the shepherds the wise sages began their journey following the Star westward.
So as Matt gave account Yeshua was a young child by time they arrived.
The nativity narrative is a convoluted lie meant to confuse the Faithfull.
Strength in forgiveness is for the brethren that know the rightfull copper that Hezekiah wrought.
15Behold I have made you a new grooved threshing-sledge, with sharp points; you shall thresh the mountains and crush them fine, and you shall make hills like chaff.
never heard ANYBODY say "happy birthday, Jesus" (or seen a cake and candles with His name on it) and as mentioned this is NOT a birthday celebration as such INSTEAD it is all about the remembering the INCARNATION of the Son of God into the world to begin the work of salvation---without His birth there would be preaching, no teaching, no healing, no suffering or death and no resurrection.
I'm sorry but Jesus didn't condemn slavery but Christians are generally against it and that's generally regarded as a "Christian" thing to do even is there is specific "no biblical warrant" to not have slaves. unless you can show that Jesus SPECIFICALLY said "do not remember My coming into the world" don't think there is any "positive" prohibition of the reverent remembrance that Jesus "the image of the invisible God" was indeed born of a woman, took on our flesh to bear our burdens and "offer Himself up as a sacrifice for the sins of many"---starting in a humble stable in Bethlehem and cumulating in His offering of Himself on the cross of Cavalry and sealed with His resurrection. FWIW, the Jews of that time were very much following the Law by all sorts of animal sacrifices from turtle doves, to lambs, to bulls and Christians as a whole do NOT do such things should we now return to such offerings? again, there is NOTHING in Scripture where Jesus commands His disciples to write any "new" books in addition to the "old" ones yet Christians of all sorts (even this humble sinner!!!) rely on such writings---go figure!!!!
it's funny that according to the New Testament Jesus said the most important commandments to observe were NOT about observing the Sabbath or even NOT observing "birthdays" but instead that loving God and our neighbor as we love ourselves is what truly FULFILLS the law and the prophets. moreover, apparently at our final judgment it will not be about what we did not do but what we DID---feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick, console those lonely and in prison.
if observing Christmas helps us to love God and our neighbor more sincerely and effectively on that day AND on every other day of the year then I hope and pray that a merciful and loving God will bear with us all who do so---and all of those who don't---as long as they still strive to love God and serve their neighbor.
in the peace of Christ.
Let's establish these facts:
1.) There is no directive to celebrate Christmas in the Bible.
2.) There is directive to NOT celebrate Christmas in the form of the fact that God only shows to worship Him in the way that He has directed.
3.) Jesus, nor His Apostles ever celebrated Christmas.
You would think it would have merited at least one scripture, wouldn't you? I mean given half the world is gaga over it and spend billions of dollars on it, yet G-d is silent about it. Odd how these things happen, isn't it? Peace
I really don't think many care about that. I know many of them know this but they really find other excuses for counting it of no value.
Remembering a Child that is Yeshua (jesus)
Was born from the Blessed Mother Miriam (mary)
Has nothing to do with profit or gain of worldly wealth.
For out of the Heart comes the abundance of treasures, both old and new.
Those wise sages were keenly warned of the corruption of greed that is a murderous heart.
So they did not so much as hesitate to obey a warning from a dream to travel another route home.
Remembering is one thing. Worshiping is another. Those that honor the day of December 25th as Jesus Birthday are worshipping the day of His BIRTH. And on the wrong day as well.
We know that when He was baptized was the time of His Birthday.
Luk 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
So if you are going to "REMEMBER" His birthday then people would be putting that day in more perspective instead of winter where the average high temperature in December is 57 F. Not very comfortable baptizing weather.
Many that observe Christmas cannot NOT observe for fear of committing a sin. That is worship.
Everyone is sinful but thee and me... and thou art suspect.
As long as we are in the flesh we carry the stain of Adam's sin. This doesn't mean that we continue in Sin by our deeds. For those in Christ no longer practice sin. For sin is the transgression of the Law.
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