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If endless punishment were true & victims of infanticide all go to heaven, then infanticide saves infants from any chance of growing up & going to endless torments or annihilation.
Should a loving parent, therefore, kill their infants before they reach an age at which God would hold them accountable?
"Evangelicals are divided in their opinion about the fate of infants who die.
Just read the Bible. Election does NOT mean some people are automatically destined for hell when they're born, while others are destined for eternal life. It doesn't work that way. And neither does it say everyone will be saved. Quite the opposite. Lastly, there is a legitimate argument to be made that not all those who miss the first resurrection will wind up suffering for eternity. The Bible tells me explicitly that the Antichrist and the false prophet, and Satan, will be tormented forever. All the unsaved people resurrected at the end of the millineum? I'm not so sure.
This is an ongoing thing. He likes to make statements like that, but when pressed, he rarely provides any kind of a scripture reference. Instead, he half-quotes Scripture, out of context, and twists it to say something that it doesn't say in context.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things Isaiah Chapter 45 verse 7
Proper exegesis is your worst nightmare, isn't it?
Read that in the ESV and it says "I make well-being and create calamity". The NASB says the same thing. I'd suggest a good translation, not whatever you pulled that from.
The Hebrew word for "evil" in Hebrew means many things. This particular instance means calamity, as in bad things, from the writer's perspective". It doesn't mean sinful things, or things against God's will.
Here is a great read on it, by someone far smarter than I am. I can look the verse up in the Hebrew, but this person elaborates very clearly:
Proper exegesis is your worst nightmare, isn't it?
Read that in the ESV and it says "I make well-being and create calamity". The NASB says the same thing. I'd suggest a good translation, not whatever you pulled that from.
The Hebrew word for "evil" in Hebrew means many things. This particular instance means calamity, as in bad things, from the writer's perspective". It doesn't mean sinful things, or things against God's will.
Are you the same guy that says the bible should be read and understood plainly?
That verse plainly states that your God created evil. And since you (supposedly) believe he created everything, evil is part of the "everything" package.
All your duckin' n' dodgin' and s'plainin' won't change what the words state quite clearly: your God is responsible for the existence of evil.
Proper exegesis is your worst nightmare, isn't it?
Read that in the ESV and it says "I make well-being and create calamity". The NASB says the same thing. I'd suggest a good translation, not whatever you pulled that from.
The Hebrew word for "evil" in Hebrew means many things. This particular instance means calamity, as in bad things, from the writer's perspective". It doesn't mean sinful things, or things against God's will.
Here is a great read on it, by someone far smarter than I am. I can look the verse up in the Hebrew, but this person elaborates very clearly:
Same old BP, it means hate when i believe it does, and it doesnt mean evil when i do not believe it. If you did the same thing with the respect to the translations that use the word "hell" you would not read a bible, but no, it doesn't with that word hell , you believe it so it has been translated right in your belief filtering system . Talk about moving the goalposts, i have never anyone do this the way you do.
LOL, you read that verse and googled it and saw another translation that fit your beliefs. You are a piece of work, you don't believe God created evil but you believe hate is evil but it is not when God hates.
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