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Sin is disobedience to God's commands. And no--we don't "judge" anyone to be hated. God has already declared that he hates sinners. I'm sorry if that bothers you. The good news is that anyone that trusts in Christ can be forgiven.
What are G-d’s commands?...Do mean the ones that you claim Jesus has abolished???...
No it is not, it is what the bible says not what you say. For whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Romans Chapter 14 verse 23. Notice again i am quoting scripture and you are not?. Keep reading there is more scripture to come. below.
There is not one single verse in the bible that says God hates sinners. The verse you are using says God hated Esau(1 person) and it was being said figuratively, but it is only figurative when it fits your vile belief about God.
Sinners that upset you, God is forever working by the riches of his goodness in being tolerant, longsuffering; knowing that his goodness leads the the recipient to repentance, all of which you despise and show contempt towards. Romans chapter 2 verse 4.
Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
I have faith that I can screw my neighbor’s wife an still go to heaven...
I have faith that I can screw my neighbor’s wife an still go to heaven...
Is that how you think ?. I certainly don’t. In fact I don’t ever give a second thought about heaven to be honest Jesus taught about that kingdom being here on earth. Are you familiar with what is called the Lord’s Prayer ?
Remember who Paul is writing to. He's laying out a case throughout Romans...each chapter builds on the last. In 2:4 he's speaking about how the Israelites thought they were God's people by virtue of birthright. He says no....they aren't. Not all of Israel will be saved, but only those that believe.
Romans 11:
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob
It is futile to stop sinning completely because we live in a fleshly body that loves to sin.....but believers with the Spirit don't have to be a slave to it......no one with ANY sin will be allowed in heaven.....so the right question is how did God deal with that?
So, you love to disobey, hurt G-d?...Interesting...
Is that how you think ?. I certainly don’t. In fact I don’t ever give a second thought about heaven to be honest Jesus taught about that kingdom being here on earth. Are you familiar with what is called the Lord’s Prayer ?
Are they the ones who had the law written in their hearts?.
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.
Romans Chapter 2 verse 14
Remember there wasn't anything you could tell Pauly about old time Judaism. He actually saw God working outside of what he ever thought was impossible to be. Yea dem Gentile dogs.
Can you imagine going through life believing God is watching every move you make and hearing every thought you have and none of it is ever forgotten by God it is enough to drive you insane. Then you have the fundamentalist gold membership subscriber take on it, he sees Jesus not our sin so as long as we confess the sin that he doesn’t see because he sees Jesus not our sin, then Bob’s your Uncle
Which is a lot like being told to let God save you from what he will do to you if you don't let him save you.
Personally, I think this "we're natural sinners because of Adam" garbage with its subsequent forgiveness rite is just the oldest excuse invented so people can be nasty, despicable human beings and get away with it.
John robs his neighbor's house. John: "Oh, woe is me, the poor sinner, I can't help sinning (raping, killing, scamming people, being a d****bag, etc), I am so ashamed, please forgive me!" God forgives John. John then takes the loot he stole and buys a new car with it so he can rob a bank this time because he has a getaway vehicle. John gets caught and "finds" God in prison, but not before the neighbors he robbed become destitute and starve to death without their money. But John is forgiven, so he's going to heaven.
Edited to add: there's something wrong with that somewhere.
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