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Old 02-17-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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"life" it turns evil.
pain and suffering.
please show me where there is life produced in this world without suffering? ... show me where you have produced any life and it didn't' involve pain or suffering?
your delusional !

Jer 4:3

Yes, the LORD has this to say to the people of Judah and Jerusalem: "Like a farmer breaking up hard unplowed ground, you must break your rebellious will and make a new beginning; just as a farmer must clear away thorns lest the seed is wasted, you must get rid of the sin that is ruining your lives.

lots of pain and suffering for that farmer to get his "New beginning" just as everything else in this cursed life.
Until the Shiloh comes and then after all who would suffer have and did then shiloah comes.. then after the 1000 years and the very last war AND ALL THOSE SACRIFICES MADE .. ONLY THEN Then New Jerusalem comes.

YOUR DELUSIONAL AND DO NOT KNOW THE LORD OR THE WORD.

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Old 02-17-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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Fire produces warmth during the winter but when it destroys property or life, it turns evil.
And knowing the difference (between good and evil) doesn't require pain and suffering.
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please show me where there is life produced in this world without suffering? show me where you have produced any life and it didn't' involve pain or suffering?
your delusional !
I am not the one with a delusional disorder, neither do I have a comprehension problem.

I do not need to touch a hot-stove or pot to "know" it will burn you.
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Old 02-17-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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You and all and these with you who are just just way to pampered and spoiled rotten with snowflak-ism aka americanism! AND NEVER PRODUCED AN SMIDGE OF HIS LIFE
OR REAL LIFE EVEN ONCE.
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Old 02-17-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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1Co 15:36

What a foolish question! When you put a seed into the ground, it doesn't grow into a plant unless it dies first.

Mar 4:26

And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground

Rom 1:3

Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Rom 4:13

For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.


Rom 4:16

Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,


Rom 4:18

Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.


Rom 9:7

Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.


Rom 9:8

That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
2Ti 2:8

Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:


1Pe 1:23

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1Jo 3:9

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

HE NEVER PROMISED TO SAVE ANYONE'S FLESH AND HE NEVER PROMISED HIS THAT THEY WOULD ALWAYS BE HAPPY AND GAY.. BUT THAT AS HE DID WE MUST ALSO DIE TO OUR FLESH.. AND IN THAT WAS HIDING GREAT JOY!


JOY WITHOUT HIM IS WHITEWASHING TOMBSTONES.

FOR 2000 YEARS THE KINGDOM OF GOD HAS BEEN UNDERGROUND AND DIEING TO ITSELF AS SEEDS OF FAITH AND TRUST . IT WAS JUST BORN LAST SUMMER AND WELL GIVE IT SOME TIME AND IT WILL FILL THE WHOLE EARTH. .
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Old 02-17-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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A seed doesn't die, it merely transforms.
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Old 02-17-2018, 12:31 PM
 
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a seed doesn't die, it merely transforms.
there you go again translating the word to fit into your paradigm... Who will be saved ? Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:

but THUS undo what Eve did and seek with all their heart to trust not in their own understanding ! But to trust his UNDERSTANDING .
You are thus not a christian until your seed has died .. Not transformed! Because you are trying to transform yourself anyway .. Giving whole new meanings to the term tranny.. WITH OUT THE4 AUTHOR OF LIFE ...A seed under pressure and heat(AKA ANY TESTING) is called mush! Thus A transitional seed
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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there you go again translating the word to fit into your paradigm... Who will be saved ? Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:

but THUS undo what Eve did and seek with all their heart to trust not in their own understanding ! But to trust his UNDERSTANDING .
You are thus not a christian until your seed has died .. Not transformed! Because you are trying to transform yourself anyway .. Giving whole new meanings to the term tranny.. WITH OUT THE4 AUTHOR OF LIFE ...A seed under pressure and heat(AKA ANY TESTING) is called mush! Thus A transitional seed
Your view is definitely that of "popular" christianity. It just doesn't have anything to do with God as revealed in Jesus Christ who id fully God. You aren't a follower of Him. You have created a god to conform to your idea of punishment and retribution. That god is made in your own image.
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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Your view is definitely that of "popular" christianity. It just doesn't have anything to do with God as revealed in Jesus Christ who id fully God. You aren't a follower of Him. You have created a god to conform to your idea of punishment and retribution. That god is made in your own image.
we will see soon enough Who's God saves and who He saves.
ps proof you are deceived and delusional with others on here...... is dying to self's understanding and illusions have never been popular in any age, ever !!! stop lying ot yourselves.. !! but a self- tranny seed is still mush, not life..
ps dying to self-hasn't squat to do with what you want to die too>>or what you seek to love apparently either.. it is what he wants you to die too and that is the only part that counts, The Father's will is what counts..!
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Old 02-17-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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Can Christian Fundamentalism be credibly defended?

Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins; and receive of her plagues.
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Old 02-17-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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Your view is definitely that of "popular" Christianity. It just doesn't have anything to do with God as revealed in Jesus Christ who is fully God. You aren't a follower of Him. You have created a god to conform to your idea of punishment and retribution. That god is made in your own image.
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