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Christian fundamentalism is a bogus form of Christianity. It's basics - attacking others, judging others, engaging in legalism, and exuding a complete absence of love and understanding - are all matters that Jesus spoke out against. It's anti-Christian, and shouldn't be defended, period.
They do not know the "mind of Christ" and the detailed descriptions of the Holy Spirit who IS God and IS love. They follow the "precepts and doctrines of men" and the dogma of their church based on the primitive beliefs of our ancient ancestors from reading the OT under the veil of ignorance (blind minds). If they would simply follow Christ's instructions to His disciples to love God and each other every day and repent when they don't, they would begin to understand Jesus. Judging and condemning others for what they think is sin is NOT Christian, period.
According to Luke, Mary apparently descended from Aaron
Mary is not Davidic as noted in Luke’s Visitation in which Mary visits her blood relative Elizabeth. Elizabeth is a “daughter of Aaron” a different bloodline than David (Greek syggenēs, Strongs lexicon: of the same kin, akin to, related to)
If Mary is Elizabeth’s blood relative, this suggests that she has the same bloodline as Elizabeth. Elizabeth’s husband is a priest, again the Aaron (Levite) bloodline. Neither Mary not Elizabeth are Davidic by rather “daughters” or offspring of Aaron.
But if Luke is correct in implying that Mary is in Nathan’s lineage, her offspring would not “sit on the throne of David." (Nathan did not beget kings of Judea since he was not included in the David-Solomon and Solomon’s offspring kingly sequence promised by God).
After David’s death, the Lord gave David:
(1) A son to sit on his national throne, who the Lord would oversee as a father with necessary chastening, discipline, and mercy (Solomon); and
(2) A Son who would rule a kingdom that will be established forever (Messiah).
(3) Rehoboam was the fourth king of Israel according to the Hebrew Bible. He was a son of and the successor to Solomon, and a grandson of David
Again, Nathan never "sat on the throne of Israel" as it's king.
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Yes, I'm sure Pin. Ask one of them if they partake of the emblems at the memorial.
I also spoke about how I had aquainted with Jehovah's witnesses.
And i was certain they told me of their communion personally.
I believe this subject should be addressed further elsewhere.
They do not know the "mind of Christ" and the detailed descriptions of the Holy Spirit who IS God and IS love. They follow the "precepts and doctrines of men" and the dogma of their church based on the primitive beliefs of our ancient ancestors from reading the OT under the veil of ignorance (blind minds). If they would simply follow Christ's instructions to His disciples to love God and each other every day and repent when they don't, they would begin to understand Jesus. Judging and condemning others for what they think is sin is NOT Christian, period.
Speaking of the Seder (Wine and Bread)
Now I'm starting to see a pattern here.
It is simply presumptuous to assume that either Matthew or Luke got it wrong. Before the temple was destroyed in A.D. 70 the genealogical records were available and could be checked.
RESPONSE: Both Matthew and Luke wrote their gospels in 80 AD or later. They wrote their story at least 80 years after the birth event. The Temple had been destroyed ten years earlier. So there were no Temple records to consult. Neither Matthew nor Luke were eye-witnesses to the events they described.
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One Genealogy goes through Solomon and the other goes through Nathan which explains why the names are different after Solomon and Nathan are mentioned
The kingship of Israel never passed through Nathan. Saul, David, then Solomon, then Solomon's son , Rehoboam. Never Nathan!!!
[quote] If Luke was following normal Jewish custom by not including women's names in genealogies that would explain why Mary is not mentioned in it even though it is her genealogical line of descent from David. Joseph's name would have then been used because he was her husband and quite possibly could have been adopted as Heli's son. Certainly he was Heli's son in law.
According to Luke, Mary was a blood relative of Elizabeth who was a “daughter of Aaron" not David. Thus it seems Mary would be the same. She would not have been in David's lineage.
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Paul, a Pharisee who knew the law well, who understood the Hebrew scriptures, understood that Jesus was the Messiah.
Not exactly. Paul never knew Jesus in the flesh and persecuted Jesus’ followers for three years after the death of Jesus before converting. Curiously, Paul never reports his conversion experience on the Road to Damascus. as does Luke (but not claiming to be a witness a witness).
Speaking of the Seder (Wine and Bread)
Now I'm starting to see a pattern here.
Mystic,
Have you partook of the communion?
I long ago stopped trying to understand you, pinacled. This post is no exception. What does Pesach or the Seder have to do with Christian Communion??? Remembering Christ is not any part of the Pesach that I am aware of.
RESPONSE: Both Matthew and Luke wrote their gospels in 80 AD or later. They wrote their story at least 80 years after the birth event. The Temple had been destroyed ten years earlier. So there were no Temple records to consult. Neither Matthew nor Luke were eye-witnesses to the events they described.
The kingship of Israel never passed through Nathan. Saul, David, then Solomon, then Solomon's son , Rehoboam. Never Nathan!!!
If Luke was following normal Jewish custom by not including women's names in genealogies that would explain why Mary is not mentioned in it even though it is her genealogical line of descent from David. Joseph's name would have then been used because he was her husband and quite possibly could have been adopted as Heli's son. Certainly he was Heli's son in law.
According to Luke, Mary was a blood relative of Elizabeth who was a “daughter of Aaron" not David. Thus it seems Mary would be the same. She would not have been in David's lineage.
Not exactly. Paul never knew Jesus in the flesh and persecuted Jesus’ followers for three years after the death of Jesus before converting. Curiously, Paul never reports his conversion experience on the Road to Damascus. as does Luke (but not claiming to be a witness a witness).
Nope, you got details out of order. Timlines wrong, accounts wrong.
And i have no idea where you are getting the genealogy from.
Note a fundamental representation of the two genealogies given by Matthew and Luke. Then ask the Lord about the differences.
There is good reason they are accounted from.both Adam and Abraham.
But this not for elementary students.
Last edited by mensaguy; 11-26-2017 at 05:25 AM..
Reason: Trying to fix quotes.
Quit using the term Christian Fundamentalist. It's not accurate.
1. There are Christians, Atheists, Muslims that are fundies. It is not limited to Christian. It is ultimately an attitude of extreme dogmatic mentality, literalism, and surface understanding.
2. Because of this, it cannot accurately be called the word before it. Christians are supposed to love their neighbor, but instead these judge them worthy of Hell. Atheist are not supposed to care because they dont believe anyway, but thease spendbtheir timevtrying to deconvert. And so on.
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They do not know the "mind of Christ" and the detailed descriptions of the Holy Spirit who IS God and IS love. They follow the "precepts and doctrines of men" and the dogma of their church based on the primitive beliefs of our ancient ancestors from reading the OT under the veil of ignorance (blind minds). If they would simply follow Christ's instructions to His disciples to love God and each other every day and repent when they don't, they would begin to understand Jesus. Judging and condemning others for what they think is sin is NOT Christian, period.
According to Luke, Mary apparently descended from Aaron
