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Old 11-26-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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I find the need to believe in Jesus to be saved a big contradiction to the quote because those are beliefs based on self-righteous and bigotry.
Then, your religion really is secular humanism and self righteousness.
Nothing to do with Christianity.

Belief in Jesus is crucial, because apart from Him, we have no righteousness.
It is only by His Grace, that we are saved, and all He asks is Faith.
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Old 11-26-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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Then, your religion really is secular humanism and self righteousness.
Nothing to do with Christianity.

Belief in Jesus is crucial, because apart from Him, we have no righteousness.
It is only by His Grace, that we are saved, and all He asks is Faith.
So anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus has no righteousness? That seems very filled with bigotry.
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Old 11-26-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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So anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus has no righteousness? That seems very filled with bigotry.
That is what God, who created you, said through His Son, Jesus.
If you have a problem with that, take it up with Him.
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Old 11-26-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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good works is not for salvation but for rewards and for gaining faith .. more faith.. you can't have enough faith in his workings and his ways and his plans and promises ..
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Old 11-26-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: New England
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So anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus has no righteousness? That seems very filled with bigotry.
A fundamentalist does not know what righteousness is. I am sure they thinking being righteous is no longer commiting sin.
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Old 11-26-2017, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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That is what God, who created you, said through His Son, Jesus.
If you have a problem with that, take it up with Him.
I would enjoy taking it up with the writers themselves, but they're all dead.
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Old 11-26-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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I would enjoy taking it up with the writers themselves, but they're all dead.
that is just what you think.. He is God of the living , and you wouldn't believe it if you saw one of them . so he doesn't show anyone. but they are here now too. they are making the way strait and level , making the paths for the church to follow.

there here . probably always have been..maybe "since their deaths"
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Old 11-26-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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Then, your religion really is secular humanism and self righteousness.
Nothing to do with Christianity.

Belief in Jesus is crucial, because apart from Him, we have no righteousness.
It is only by His Grace, that we are saved, and all He asks is Faith.

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Old 11-26-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Glad I don't need saving.

Seems stressful.
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Old 11-26-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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that is just what you think.. He is God of the living , and you wouldn't believe it if you saw one of them . so he doesn't show anyone. but they are here now too. they are making the way strait and level , making the paths for the church to follow.

there here . probably always have been..maybe "since their deaths"

And this only relates to Christians right? Not the 3+ billion other people on earth who believe in a God?

How is this not just what you think?
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