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The Bible predicts that in the End Times many would be seduced by doctrines of demons. I submit to the reader that one such demonic doctrine is what is being peddled as the doctrine of grace.
"Go out and sin this week that grace may abound." - Dean of Trinity Bible college, Florida
I sat in a Baptist church one Sunday and listened to a sermon on grace presented by a fellow who, at that time, was a Dean of Trinity Bible College in Florida. The sermon was very erudite until it completely fell apart at the end. The single line presented by the Dean at the end of his message is quoted above. The congregation bought it. I left and never returned.
There is a common misconception about the doctrine of grace and its role in the redemption of man. It's being perpetrated upon believers who, not willing to study for themselves, buy it hook line and sinker. The lie is that the Law has been destroyed.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." - Jesus as quoted by Mathew 5:17.
Grace is given SO THAT one may live according to the Law. Ok, so what's the Law?
There are two general categories of religious legalism.
First is Mosaic Law also known as the Ten Commandments. This is the Law Jesus talks about when he mentions sin. Violation of the law, even in one's imagination, is sin. The purpose of the Law is to convict of sin. The Law defines sin as those acts which God forbids. All of mankind is subject to this Law regardless of race, nationality, religious affiliation or philosophy.
Second is what I call Kosher law. When the Hebrews were miraculously delivered out of bondage in Egypt they pledged themselves to obey God's Law/Mosaic Law. They failed to do so and in time God stripped them of the blessings and the very land He gave them. The remnants of the tribes of Hebrews were taken captive to Babylon because of their sins. While in Babylon the religious leaders repented of their sins and went overboard in the opposite direction. They became overly legalistic. The result was a document called the Talmud. Approximately 15,000 pages in length, the Talmud added rules and regulations to Mosaic Law making a total of approximately 613 laws.
When Jesus founded the church, He reduced the number of laws and rules from 613 to 2 - the shema and V'ahavta(*). The Holy Spirit guided St. Peter (ministered to Jews) and St. Paul (ministered to gentiles) to proclaim that gentiles were not required to keep kosher law - only Mosaic Law/The Ten Commandments. It's therefore ok for gentiles to eat ham and eggs for breakfast and a cheeseburger for lunch. (pork products are forbidden by Kosher law and the same law forbids eating dairy with meat - even though McDonald's serves plastic cheese with its mystery meat burgers)
3rd Law - secular error
It has often been said that nobody's perfect or that everybody makes mistakes. These phrases are meant to subvert God's Holy Law. Both Moses and Jesus said that we are to keep the Law. Moses said it would be easy and Jesus said His followers should be perfect as He is perfect. Why would Moses and Jesus say we should keep the Law if it couldn't be kept? In actual fact it IS possible to be perfect.
A mistake is not the same as a sin.
When a child learns to ride a bicycle she may fall off before she gets it right. A boy make make a bad play in Little League before he understands how to play baseball. Did the little girl sin when she fell off her bicycle or did she just make a mistake? Did the boy sin when he made a bad play in baseball or did he just make a mistake? A mistake is NOT the same thing as a sin.
Jesus spent many years as a carpenter. I imagine that He smashed His finger with a hammer many times and that He may have dropped a heavy piece of lumber on His foot a few times. He probably hollered in pain. He made mistakes, but He never took the Lord's name in vain and sinned. Do you understand the difference?
The world in general and the believer in particular are called to be perfect in accord with the Law of Moses as enabled by the grace of the Holy Spirit who writes God's Law in our hearts so as to not offend the Almighty.
Grace is given that we may be justified before God - NOT so as to go out and sin more. The woman caught in adultery was forgiven by Jesus and told to 'go out and sin no more'. Jesus didn't tell her she was forgiven so that she could open a brothel, yet the post modern church is being led to believe this very thing is possible and allowable. It's a demonic lie masquerading as grace.
Beware the lies of secularized religion. It IS possible to live a perfect life - believers are commanded to do so from Moses to Jesus.
and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
(*)
The shema is the oldest statement of faith.
Shema Israel Adonai Eloheinu (Hear O Israel the Lord thy God.) Adonai echad. (The Lord is One) [note the use of Hebrew word 'echad' instead of 'yachid'].
Echad is a plural of the word One, as for example the Latin phrase e pluribus unum 'from many, one' to describe the political unity and diversity of the states of the federation of the United States. Echad suggests God/Adonai is a plural yet unified entity.
Yachid is an absolute one. One is one, meaning only a single item in Hebrew.
Jews stumble on this definition. Why is the word echad used instead of yachid?
The shema prayer is ancient and suggests a dimension of God's character that is not generally admitted today by the Jewish community.
The V'ahavta is an extension of the shema. "Love your neighbor as yourself"
Loft......Jesus died on the cross and took away sin because we are not qualified to do it. You are adding the yoke of the law a huge burden on yourself that Jesus took away.....i point you to the first poster and his quotes from Romans 6
14. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are NOT UNDER LAW BUT UNDER GRACE. (Roman 6)
Read that line 14 slowly.......we are now under GRACE (unmerited favor) the very thing you apparently want to toss out.
If I could be so bold as to suggest you read Romans 3-4-5-6 and see if the word of God doesn't change your mind....
Little Elmer has it so right......REST in the completed work of Christ on the cross.....it's what HE DID that counts
This is a good post. Accepting the completed work of Christ is to stop doing bad things and giving it all to God to take it all away as if it never happened. That means making all things right with God and those hurt by it, and there's the rest, hopefully.
Unlike BF I have been on here more than long enough to see that you have a militant feminist spirit that is so virulently anti-man, it's disturbing. Being female myself, I understand how that can get a foothold but it is not of Christ's Spirit, and is a definite step down to who we are made to be in Christ. Reject it, you don't need it, He is more than enough. Peace
I am a feminist. Every man in my orbit is also feminist. God certainly has no problem with me.
I am unconcerned with your opinion. You are female? You speak more like men. You might want to check that. Aren't men supposed to take the lead?
You kind started this by your "but...but....but.....but....the men!"
Get over it. Please. It just makes us tune you out when you continue to harp on this.
Have you not been listening? Christian men are in the news. From the President to Roy Moore. My sisters have been speaking up. Dozens of them. Other Christian men are falling all over themselves trying to justify their terrible behavior to women and children.
Feel free to tune me out. That seems to be what alleged Christian men do. Tune out women who stand.
Have you not been listening? Christian men are in the news. From the President to Roy Moore. My sisters have been speaking up. Dozens of them. Other Christian men are falling all over themselves trying to justify their terrible behavior to women and children.
Feel free to tune me out. That seems to be what alleged Christian men do. Tune out women who stand.
You're a breath of fresh air in this musty, mouldy section of CD.
Fundamentalist men are weak and frightened. Hence their desperate need to stand on top of a Big Old Book to make themselves seem Large & In Charge and keep women small, inferior and "pregnant, barefoot, and in the kitchen." Not to mention silent. Especially in church.
Fundie men (and some women) hate and fear you, like they hate and fear me. We hold a mirror to their smallness and they can't help themselves -- they peek and catch glimpses of how wee they are.
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