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The virgin birth can NEVER be optional because Jesus would have been born in the inherited sin of Adam like the rest us. He being deity had to be born from God to be God or His death would have meant nothing, and His shed blood not being holy would not have been acceptable to God the father.
That’s why the virgin birth is so important. For Jesus to be God, He must be born of God. Joseph, a man, and Mary, a woman, cannot produce God. God cannot be born into this world by natural human processes. There’s no way He could be God apart from being conceived by God. (grace to you)
From Matthew chap 1 we see this.....
20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” 22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:
23 “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
and they shall call his name Immanuel”
Don't think your destiny is heaven if you treat this lightly.......Jesus is the Son of God and the Creator of all things.......
What made Jesus special was that he DIDNT sin. Its not a sin to be born, so even if Joseph was his biological father, the fact that he never committed a sin and fulfilled everything written about him in the Torah is what made him the Messiah.
What made Jesus special was that he DIDNT sin. Its not a sin to be born, so even if Joseph was his biological father, the fact that he never committed a sin and fulfilled everything written about him in the Torah is what made him the Messiah.
If Joseph had been Jesus' biological father Jesus would have inherited Adam's sin nature through Joseph and Adam's original sin would have then been imputed to Jesus which would have caused Him to be born spiritually dead and not qualified to go to the cross and die for our sins.
The virgin birth of Jesus was absolutely essential. Without it there would have been no salvation for anyone.
The virgin birth can NEVER be optional because Jesus would have been born in the inherited sin of Adam like the rest us.
You are thinking about it wrong, Jesus became a new Adam and what did this mean to you? It means that Adam is a Husband INSIDE a bride. Both Adam and Jesus were lain down in a sleep of death for a bride to be taken from their own flesh, and through this death and resurrection we can decide to choose a NEW ADAM, but therein lies the problem. All of us are still born with the SPIRIT of Adam, not just sin, but a literal spirit who has had his own life, and now he is inside us as we are born. The fallen spirit of Adam will continue to lead us until we gain the victory and overcome. This is why Jesus said,'' From now on there shall be 5 in one house. The person has chosen to become a submissive bride of Christ instead of being a king of Adam and Eve, he CHOOSES to wed a NEW ADAM/spirit.
By choosing to Marry Christ, you have now become a daughter in law and your mother in law{EVE} will hate your guts, and you will hate her as your new mother in law when you stopped being her son and decided to become a submissive virgin betrothed to a new Adam.
We don't get rid of the old spirit of Adam just by saying Jesus, it is a long drawn out fight of kingdom against kingdom.
This is why all the overcomers have to get beheaded, because we are all born with the head of Adam, and that is everyone under Adam's authority as individual spirits that come teaching us just like Elijah.
Unclean birds{Spirits of air} came feeding and bringing meat/Teachings to Elijah, and this is why it was so important that Elijah accepts his death instead of running from death. We have to die, and Christ is slowly formed in us until we are born again after having chose to become a submissive virgin to Christ.
Just saying,'' It's not just sin, it is the fallen spirit that is an individual spirit causing us to sin because we had no power to overcome sin. The spirit is there for you NOT TO SIN, the Holy spirit was given and it gave them power to overcome the fallen spirit of Adam that had no power to lift us up.
We literally work toward a day of getting beheaded, to overcome the head of the old Adam, and to put on the new head of Christ as we are the body, and he is that new head.
Example of magical thinking encouraged by religious institutions Jesus NEVER established. "if you love me, do as I have taught." was NOT about doctrines concerning the nature of Jesus or the Christ, but about a way of life inspired by an attitude towaed God and man.
The virgin conception and birth of Jesus is explicitly taught in Scripture and is one of the core doctrines of the Christian faith.
QUESTION: When were the nativity narratives added to Matthew and Luke?
Don't you think it strange that, aside from the first few chapters in only Mark and Luke, there is no other mention of a virgin birth of Jesus. Not by Mark (c 70 AD, John c 95 AD, or Paul c. 60 AD). And Jesus never refers to it.
The Hebrew bible states that a Hebrew's genealogy and tribal membership is transmitted exclusively through one’s PHYSICAL father (Numbers 1:18 Jeremiah 33:17)
Unlike Matthew, Luke has no explanation for how Joseph’s genealogy can apply to Jesus, who is not his biological son.
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If Joseph had been Jesus' biological father Jesus would have inherited Adam's sin nature through Joseph and Adam's original sin would have then been imputed to Jesus which would have caused Him to be born spiritually dead and not qualified to go to the cross and die for our sins.
The virgin birth of Jesus was absolutely essential. Without it there would have been no salvation for anyone.
RESPONSE: So you are saying that all men and women have the personal guilt of Adam's sin?
Example of magical thinking encouraged by religious institutions Jesus NEVER established. "if you love me, do as I have taught." was NOT about doctrines concerning the nature of Jesus or the Christ, but about a way of life inspired by an attitude towaed God and man.
No an example of spiritual truth clearly beyond your current "pay grade", as the fruit of your labors reaped by your own choices. Peace
You are thinking about it wrong, Jesus became a new Adam and what did this mean to you? It means that Adam is a Husband INSIDE a bride. Both Adam and Jesus were lain down in a sleep of death for a bride to be taken from their own flesh, and through this death and resurrection we can decide to choose a NEW ADAM, but therein lies the problem. All of us are still born with the SPIRIT of Adam, not just sin, but a literal spirit who has had his own life, and now he is inside us as we are born. The fallen spirit of Adam will continue to lead us until we gain the victory and overcome. This is why Jesus said,'' From now on there shall be 5 in one house. The person has chosen to become a submissive bride of Christ instead of being a king of Adam and Eve, he CHOOSES to wed a NEW ADAM/spirit.
By choosing to Marry Christ, you have now become a daughter in law and your mother in law{EVE} will hate your guts, and you will hate her as your new mother in law when you stopped being her son and decided to become a submissive virgin betrothed to a new Adam.
We don't get rid of the old spirit of Adam just by saying Jesus, it is a long drawn out fight of kingdom against kingdom.
This is why all the overcomers have to get beheaded, because we are all born with the head of Adam, and that is everyone under Adam's authority as individual spirits that come teaching us just like Elijah.
Unclean birds{Spirits of air} came feeding and bringing meat/Teachings to Elijah, and this is why it was so important that Elijah accepts his death instead of running from death. We have to die, and Christ is slowly formed in us until we are born again after having chose to become a submissive virgin to Christ.
Just saying,'' It's not just sin, it is the fallen spirit that is an individual spirit causing us to sin because we had no power to overcome sin. The spirit is there for you NOT TO SIN, the Holy spirit was given and it gave them power to overcome the fallen spirit of Adam that had no power to lift us up.
We literally work toward a day of getting beheaded, to overcome the head of the old Adam, and to put on the new head of Christ as we are the body, and he is that new head.
Amen. He comes to take our breath away = Adam's spirit, the ghost we have to give up. Peace
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