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So we have the unbelieving spirits of antichrist aligned against a book they can't possibly understand in context, mocking and ridiculing a God who will deal with all of them later. Yawn............
So we have the unbelieving spirits of antichrist aligned against a book they can't possibly understand in context, mocking and ridiculing a God who will deal with all of them later. Yawn............
RESPONSE: On the other hand, they may be perfectly correct and they even can identify the errors and contradictions found in "the book."
Do the "unbelieving spirits of antichrist" simply lack basic gullibility?
So we have the unbelieving spirits of antichrist aligned against a book they can't possibly understand in context, mocking and ridiculing a God who will deal with all of them later. Yawn............
RESPONSE: These two passages are easy to understand, but at least one is in error.
Matthew 2
Now after they had left, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy him.” 14 Then Joseph[h] got up, took the child and his mother by night, and went to Egypt, 15 and remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet, “Out of Egypt I have called my son.”…………….
19 When Herod died, an angel of the Lord suddenly appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt and said, 20 “Get up, take the child and his mother, and go to the land of Israel, for those who were seeking the child’s life are dead.”
Luke 2
22 When the time came for their purification according to the law of Moses, they brought him up to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the law of the Lord, ………….39 When they had finished everything required by the law of the Lord,( 50 days after birth- the Purification) they returned to Galilee, to their own town of Nazareth. 40 The child grew and became strong, filled with wisdom; and the favor of God was upon him.
Which of these contradictory passages do you claim is inerrant? Are you going to claim unbelieving spirits of antichrist (are) aligned against a book? Or do you want to attempt a "context" ploy?
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RESPONSE: These two passages are easy to understand, but at least one is in error.
Matthew 2
Now after they had left, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy him.” 14 Then Joseph[h] got up, took the child and his mother by night, and went to Egypt, 15 and remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet, “Out of Egypt I have called my son.”…………….
19 When Herod died, an angel of the Lord suddenly appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt and said, 20 “Get up, take the child and his mother, and go to the land of Israel, for those who were seeking the child’s life are dead.”
Luke 2
22 When the time came for their purification according to the law of Moses, they brought him up to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the law of the Lord, ………….39 When they had finished everything required by the law of the Lord,( 50 days after birth- the Purification) they returned to Galilee, to their own town of Nazareth. 40 The child grew and became strong, filled with wisdom; and the favor of God was upon him.
Which of these contradictory passages do you claim is inerrant? Are you going to claim unbelieving spirits of antichrist (are) aligned against a book? Or do you want to attempt a "context" ploy?
You don't believe the word because YOU DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT.......it's that simple. My guess is you leave this site and go to your favorite "Bible is full of errors" dot com and read the rest of the day so you can bring your verses back here. We really learn nothing except you hate the book, and those who hate the book hate the SON and have no part with believers.
Lets look at some of the many more errors in inerrant scripture.
Matthew 2:23 : And he went and lived in a city called Nazareth, that what was spoken by the prophets might be fulfilled: “He shall be called a Nazarene.”
QUESTIONS:
Where in the Old Testament does it say Jesus shall be called a Nazarene.? Answer: It doesn't.
Where in the Old Testament is there any mention of Nazareth? Answer: It isn't mentioned.
GINOLJC, to all. I'll take that challenge. the bible is correct, historically. according to the New Unger's dictionary, The name of Nazarene was but another word for despised one. Hence, although no prophet has ever said anything of the word Nazarene, yet all those prophecies describing the Messiah as a despised one are fulfilled in His being a Nazarene. scripture, Isaiah 53:1-3 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not".
and here is my scripture that backs this up. John 1:46 "And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see". so I believe Unger's dictionary is correct, as well as the scriptures that sustain it.
PCY
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RESPONSE: These two passages are easy to understand, but at least one is in error.
Matthew 2
Now after they had left, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy him.” 14 Then Joseph[h] got up, took the child and his mother by night, and went to Egypt, 15 and remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet, “Out of Egypt I have called my son.”…………….
19 When Herod died, an angel of the Lord suddenly appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt and said, 20 “Get up, take the child and his mother, and go to the land of Israel, for those who were seeking the child’s life are dead.”
Luke 2
22 When the time came for their purification according to the law of Moses, they brought him up to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the law of the Lord, ………….39 When they had finished everything required by the law of the Lord,( 50 days after birth- the Purification) they returned to Galilee, to their own town of Nazareth. 40 The child grew and became strong, filled with wisdom; and the favor of God was upon him.
Which of these contradictory passages do you claim is inerrant? Are you going to claim unbelieving spirits of antichrist (are) aligned against a book? Or do you want to attempt a "context" ploy?
there is no error here also. in Luke 2 this is when the baby Jesus was an infant, from birth. in Matthews 2 the Lord Jesus at this time was a YOUNG CHILD of at least two years old. big difference. remember the wise men never came to the Lord Jesus birth, only the Shepherd was at his birth which was in a manger. the wise men came to the HOUSE where now the two year old YOUNG CHILD was living.
You don't believe the word because YOU DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT.......it's that simple. My guess is you leave this site and go to your favorite "Bible is full of errors" dot com and read the rest of the day so you can bring your verses back here. We really learn nothing except you hate the book, and those who hate the book hate the SON and have no part with believers.
RESPONSE: I don't believe what common sense shows is clearly contradictory and in error. I don't "hate the book." But I'm not foolish either.
I use adequate reading comprehension and common sense so I just recognize the Bibles' errors and contradictions.
Does that make all non-fundamentalists who do so "sinners"?
When exactly are you saying Jesus went to Egypt? Please quote your scriptural reference. Please quote all of the four evangalists.
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GINOLJC, to all. I'll take that challenge. the bible is correct, historically. according to the New Unger's dictionary, The name of Nazarene was but another word for despised one. Hence, although no prophet has ever said anything of the word Nazarene, yet all those prophecies describing the Messiah as a despised one are fulfilled in His being a Nazarene. scripture, Isaiah 53:1-3 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not".
and here is my scripture that backs this up. John 1:46 "And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see". so I believe Unger's dictionary is correct, as well as the scriptures that sustain it.
PCY
I go by the plain meaning of words without complicated rationalizations. "He shall be called a Nazarene" means he shall be called a Nazarene!
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there is no error here also. in Luke 2 this is when the baby Jesus was an infant, from birth. in Matthews 2 the Lord Jesus at this time was a YOUNG CHILD of at least two years old. big difference. remember the wise men never came to the Lord Jesus birth, only the Shepherd was at his birth which was in a manger. the wise men came to the HOUSE where now the two year old YOUNG CHILD was living.
so no contradictions there either.
RESPONSE: Of course here you are disregarding the gospel of Luke.
According to Luke, Jesus and the Holy Family returned to Nazareth 50 days after his birth. Not Egypt. In fact at no point in Luke' gospel does he report that in Jesus' life time was he in Egypt.
Incidentally, Matthew does not have Jesus born in a stable. And not returning to Nazareth 50 days after his birth as does Luke. Luke has no Egypt yarn.
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You don't believe the word because YOU DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT.......it's that simple. My guess is you leave this site and go to your favorite "Bible is full of errors" dot com and read the rest of the day so you can bring your verses back here. We really learn nothing except you hate the book, and those who hate the book hate the SON and have no part with believers.
RESPONSE: No. I don't believe the "word" when the "word" is in error. Please find anywhere in the gospels of Luke, Mark, or John that Jesus was ever in Egypt.
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