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Have you ever thought there's a road to salvation for the Jews, as spoken of in Romans 11, and also a road for the Christians? 2000 years have produced billions of followers of Christ's Grace and 17 million Jews with their Promise. You yourself give us one pile of thoughts where you mention Jesus and, a few minutes later, a fresh pile of thoughts where you only mention Jews. The Jews reject Jesus but have their Promise. Christians have the Grace of The Christ. I'm afraid that's the best that can be expected of men until the next Age.
I don't care what any unbelieving person in Jesus calls themselves, Jewish or not, or what delusional premise that you have of being some self appointed Scripture correction officer from a Jewish perspective .... it's meaningless hubris clap trap.
You ought to be smart enough to take the hint like the unbelieving Jews who dogged Jesus when he said what he said to whom they belong to and whose teaching that it is.
You can’t even prove that he existed historically...And the fact that Christianity had to modify our Tanakh in order to fit him in there...Talk about deceptive practices...
But the Jews do not believe in Jesus. Don't believe that? Ask Richard for a direct answer from a Jew. I posted the Golden Rule spoken of by Jesus and the Jew-On-Board said, What has that got to do with anything. See??
Meanwhile, I wonder, if he is such a devout Jew,
why are 2/3 of his posts are here disparaging
Christians, and substantially less than 10% of
his posts are in Judaism.
(Note, no question mark, so no one need answer
me. Just a note that I am simply wondering
why that is the case. It is food for thought.)
If you would get the Tanakh scriptures correct, I probably wouldn’t be here...
1) Jesus made no such instruction us Christians as to your "good example", that is a false scenario premise.
2) Jesus shouted from the cross "IT IS FINISHED" for a reason and why he permitted himself to be crucified.
Those who fail to have faith in Jesus' life\death\ resurrection and subsequent assurance of "Your faith has save you, go in peace" are attempting to gain salvation on their own means via obedience to the law. God the Holy Spirit calls them:"Judaizers"
"Judaizers" --definition:
1) those who taught a combination of God's grace and human effort were called “Judaizers.”
2)from a Greek verb meaning “to live according to Jewish customs.”
Good luck showing up as "be Holy" ~ OT God \ "be perfect" ~ NT Jesus (present tense) on your own merits as your own law keeper as the law demands.
Have you ever thought there's a road to salvation for the Jews, as spoken of in Romans 11, and also a road for the Christians? 2000 years have produced billions of followers of Christ's Grace and 17 million Jews with their Promise. You yourself give us one pile of thoughts where you mention Jesus and, a few minutes later, a fresh pile of thoughts where you only mention Jews. The Jews reject Jesus but have their Promise. Christians have the Grace of The Christ. I'm afraid that's the best that can be expected of men until the next Age.
As Jews we are obligated to follow Torah and Christians are obligated to follow the Seven Noahide Laws...
As Jews we are obligated to follow Torah and Christians are obligated to follow the Seven Noahide Laws...
Good. You're actually answering Hannibal Flavius "difficulty", since I was posting to him. Now he has the Jewish answer. Christians are not obligated to live as Jews.
To Hannibal Flavius... See??? You want a Messianic Age right now, but it ain't gonna happen until it happens.
Noahide Laws refresher:
Accordingly, any non-Jew who adheres to these laws because they were given by Moses is regarded as a righteous gentile, and is assured of a place in the world to come (עולם הבא Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous.
The seven Noahide laws as traditionally enumerated are the following:
Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
To establish courts of justice.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
You can’t even prove that he existed historically...And the fact that Christianity had to modify our Tanakh in order to fit him in there...Talk about deceptive practices...
What have been changed by the Christians in your Tanakh?
You can’t even prove that he existed historically...And the fact that Christianity had to modify our Tanakh in order to fit him in there...Talk about deceptive practices...
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
So?...He quoted the Torah...And?...
and that Jesus existed for you to say he quoted anything.
More than likely it's the unbelieving Jews who had to modify the Scriptures in order to remain hardened to the truth as Jesus quoted the Scriptures in condemnation against them.
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