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Old 03-03-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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There's no such thing as "once saved, always saved." That's like believing that you can't get another speeding ticket after paying for a previous citation.
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Old 03-03-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Redding, Ca
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There's no such thing as "once saved, always saved." That's like believing that you can't get another speeding ticket after paying for a previous citation.
Mixing apples and oranges or oil and water.

It's the spiritual over the physical....you think?

Blessings, AJ
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Old 03-03-2018, 03:43 PM
 
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The lost sheep of the House of Israel were the ten tribes that were lost from the Northern Kingdom of Israel...Judah, the other stick, obviously was not lost...G-d will take those two sticks and make them one again and then make with them a New Covenant and write His Torah on their hearts...I thought that you followed Jesus?...

There NO ten lost tribes.......Jesus knows where everyone is........

I will completely fry your brain because I follow Paul who follows Jesus........


!Cor11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
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Old 03-03-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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There's no such thing as "once saved, always saved." That's like believing that you can't get another speeding ticket after paying for a previous citation.

Salvation is a work of God and all believers receive the imputed righteousness of Jesus, and no human can undo what God has established.......
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:28 PM
 
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Salvation is a work of God and all believers receive the imputed righteousness of Jesus, and no human can undo what God has established.......

Then how do you explain what Jesus taught at Matthew 7:21-23-- these believe, yet Jesus said-MANY will hear his words. This is judgement scenario.) There are many requirements on the mortals part. Jesus said FEW will find the road. Men with white collars on handing their flocks entrance into Gods kingdom by telling them they are saved or born again is NOT reality. They do not know who will gain entrance into Gods kingdom. Just in theory nothing more. They get many tithes.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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Then how do you explain what Jesus taught at Matthew 7:21-23-- these believe, yet Jesus said-MANY will hear his words. This is judgement scenario.) There are many requirements on the mortals part. Jesus said FEW will find the road. Men with white collars on handing their flocks entrance into Gods kingdom by telling them they are saved or born again is NOT reality. They do not know who will gain entrance into Gods kingdom. Just in theory nothing more. They get many tithes.
And the JW Governing Body has been in error so often you must feel your skin has turned to 'fleeced'.

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Old 03-03-2018, 04:59 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Then how do you explain what Jesus taught at Matthew 7:21-23-- these believe, yet Jesus said-MANY will hear his words. This is judgement scenario.) There are many requirements on the mortals part. Jesus said FEW will find the road. Men with white collars on handing their flocks entrance into Gods kingdom by telling them they are saved or born again is NOT reality. They do not know who will gain entrance into Gods kingdom. Just in theory nothing more. They get many tithes.
I don't think Matthew 7:13 speaking of the gate is about requirements. It's just that you can't find the narrow gate if you have to be a dick about everything. The verse right before that sums it up nicely:

12In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the prophets.

Are you telling me you wish to be treated as if your thoughts don't matter? Are you saying you want to be treated as "evil", "defective", "apostate"? Do you want to have people speak on behalf of God to tell you that God disapproves of how you live your life? When you speak your truth do you want to be called "mentally diseased" and feasting at the table of demons? Well then congratulations you will find the narrow gate.
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Old 03-04-2018, 01:01 AM
 
Location: US
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There NO ten lost tribes.......Jesus knows where everyone is........
You mean G-d knows where the lost tribes of the Northern Kingdom of Israel are...


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I will completely fry your brain because I follow Paul who follows Jesus.
Go for it!....
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Old 03-04-2018, 01:04 AM
 
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There NO ten lost tribes.......Jesus knows where everyone is........

I will completely fry your brain because I follow Paul who follows Jesus........


!Cor11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Paul does not follow Jesus at all...
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Paul does not follow Jesus at all...
And you do?
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