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Old 01-11-2018, 02:50 AM
 
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From the Bible:

9. Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,

10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of
God. (1 Kor. 6)


So God is calling us to the path of righteousness, but if we are not in the path righteousness, we do not hear his call, because of the many temptations of this world, and our own flesh which fill our hearts.

We can not live in those sins and survive, it's a self-deception if we try, and it may give some hope for now, but not in the end when the truth only matters.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:06 AM
 
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From the Bible:

9. Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,

10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of
God. (1 Kor. 6)


So God is calling us to the path of righteousness, but if we are not in the path righteousness, we do not hear his call, because of the many temptations of this world, and our own flesh which fill our hearts.

We can not live in those sins and survive, it's a self-deception if we try, and it may give some hope for now, but not in the end when the truth only matters.
SO we are essentially still under the law, and Jesus lied when He told humanity it was all about GRACE and fogiveness?

So if LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR is not the greatest commandment (as Jesus claimed) what might the "greatest commandment be, according to Paul?


Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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SO we are essentially still under the law, and Jesus lied when He told humanity it was all about GRACE and fogiveness?

So if LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR is not the greatest commandment (as Jesus claimed) what might the "greatest commandment be, according to Paul?


Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.
Jesus most definitely didn't lie, because he knew if everyone had love for each other. then it would cover the Laws of Jehovah God's 10 Commandments. which in that Law he told us what we shouldn't do towards others. but of the all the Laws Jesus told us exactly what we need to do if we wanted to enter God's kingdom. and despite what many believe, calling on Jesus wasn't going to do it ,his words!, (Matt. 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven). peace
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:40 AM
 
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From the Bible:

9. Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,

10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of
God. (1 Kor. 6)


So God is calling us to the path of righteousness, but if we are not in the path righteousness, we do not hear his call, because of the many temptations of this world, and our own flesh which fill our hearts.

We can not live in those sins and survive, it's a self-deception if we try, and it may give some hope for now, but not in the end when the truth only matters.
I'm thankful that I am righteous by the righteousness of Christ. if it were up to me, I wouldn't qualify.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:55 AM
 
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I'm thankful that I am righteous by the righteousness of Christ. if it were up to me, I wouldn't qualify.
Why should we believe you?

I am asking because you often say the same to others.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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I'm thankful that I am righteous by the righteousness of Christ. if it were up to me, I wouldn't qualify.
what does that mean?... "I am righteous by the righteousness of Christ." can you explain because I know Jesus was sent to teach, set an example in which we were to follow. and then to die so that we might live. thanks
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:03 AM
 
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what does that mean?... "I am righteous by the righteousness of Christ." can you explain because I know Jesus was sent to teach, set an example in which we were to follow. and then to die so that we might live. thanks
Read Ephesians. Chapter 1-2 talk about how we are unrighteous, and we were enemies with God in our natural state. God grants us the faith to believe, and it's by grace through faith that we are saved -- nothing else (Eph 2:8-9).

When you trust in Jesus as your savior, you are born again, and have the right to become a child of God (John 1:12). NOTHING else makes you acceptable in God's eyes, except faith in Jesus. If Jesus only came to set an example, then he didn't need to die on a cross. He took the punishment on our behalf. He is the propitiation that turns away the wrath of God.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Why should we believe you?

I am asking because you often say the same to others.
Because I back it up with Scripture. It's not just my opinion. If you can base what you say off of Scripture, I'll believe you, but this forum is full of people that simply give their opinions and act like it's fact.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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While the crowd is trying to find loopholes into God's Kingdom, Mikko is serving the true way to enter. Furthermore, from the Scriptures:

Romans 8
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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I'm thankful that I am righteous by the righteousness of Christ. if it were up to me, I wouldn't qualify.
Sounds just a wee bit self-righteous huh?

Personally, I will take FORGIVENESS and GRACE over RIGHTEOUSNESS everyday of the month.
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