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Old 03-20-2018, 07:11 PM
 
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The Jews have been waiting for the coming Messiah? Is Jesus the promised Messiah?
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:03 PM
 
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LOL That's the million-dollar question. Some say yes, some say no. It won't be answered conclusively here on City-Data.com

This is a personal belief and decision, irregardless of what anyone else thinks. We all have our opinions and convictions, but it's up to you; what you believe Read the scriptures, pray about it, ask God to help you decide the truth (or not) of it.

Would you rather hear from us feeble humans, or hear from God?
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:52 PM
 
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The Jews have been waiting for the coming Messiah? Is Jesus the promised Messiah?
Jesus presented Himself as the Jewish Messiah. And because the Jewish leaders rejected Jesus as the Messiah, the temple and Jerusalem were destroyed in A.D. 70.

According to the prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27 the Messiah was to come before the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem.

According to the seventy weeks (of years) prophecy in Daniel 9:26 the Messiah would be cut off (killed) after the sixty-two weeks (of years). The sixty-two weeks followed the first seven weeks (Daniel 9:25) for a total of sixty-nine weeks (of years). This 483 year period spanned the time from when Artazerxes Longimanus issued the degree in 444 B.C. to rebuild Jerusalem's city walls (Nehemiah 2:1-8) to when Jesus made His Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem on a colt. Shortly after that He was crucified. As a result, and as per the prophecy, both the temple and Jerusalem were later destroyed, which historically occurred in A.D. 70.

So. . . yes. Jesus is the Jewish Messiah.

Jewish scholar Arnold Fruchtenbaum writes about the Messianic Time Table According to Daniel the Prophet in the following article.

https://jewsforjesus.org/publication...l-the-prophet/

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Old 03-21-2018, 12:15 AM
 
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The Jews have been waiting for the coming Messiah? Is Jesus the promised Messiah?
No....
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:38 AM
 
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Jesus presented Himself as the Jewish Messiah. And because the Jewish leaders rejected Jesus as the Messiah, the temple and Jerusalem were destroyed in A.D. 70.

According to the prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27 the Messiah was to come before the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem.

According to the seventy weeks (of years) prophecy in Daniel 9:26 the Messiah would be cut off (killed) after the sixty-two weeks (of years). The sixty-two weeks followed the first seven weeks (Daniel 9:25) for a total of sixty-nine weeks (of years). This 483 year period spanned the time from when Artazerxes Longimanus issued the degree in 444 B.C. to rebuild Jerusalem's city walls (Nehemiah 2:1-8) to when Jesus made His Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem on a colt. Shortly after that He was crucified. As a result, and as per the prophecy, both the temple and Jerusalem were later destroyed, which historically occurred in A.D. 70.

So. . . yes. Jesus is the Jewish Messiah.

Jewish scholar Arnold Fruchtenbaum writes about the Messianic Time Table According to Daniel the Prophet in the following article.

https://jewsforjesus.org/publication...l-the-prophet/
O but you left out the Messiah that you and I were born under after Messiah came and went his way, remember, THEN the false Messiah would come? Well the false Messiah did come and as his goal was to turn the chidren of Israel away from their God, Chrstianity managed to accomplish where Daniel's anti-Christ failed, Constantine had change the times and the seasons and they made sure nobody was following the God of the bible .Don't forget the part where the false Messiah comes a=in and all his people keep his Babylonian ways up unto this day.
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:58 AM
 
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Gabriel's Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks
…26"Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined. 27"


After Messiah has Gone away, and after the Jewish war where gentles stopped converting to the ways of a Jewish Messiah out of fear, there came another GENTILE Messiah whose ways were already of the Saturnalia and so and agreement was made between the church and the roman officials who were trying to stop their citizens from making pilgrimages to Jerusalem every year. The Christians of Rome were not willing to become a target as those who followed in the ways of Christ, IN FACT, there new supposed Christians who now accepted the Saturnalia instead of the feast of Tabernacles had to do away with any Christian Gentiles who wanted to keep the real feasts of Jesus.


Of course Rome won out over this struggle and before long, Constantine would outlaw God's ways, and make it illegal for any Gentile to keep, and once that is done, you no longer have gentiles becoming one with Jews, Now Jews stood alone. No more Gentiles becoming co-heirs, everything Jesus had done was now torn down and the brotherhood he fixed was now torn in half and now the ten tribes were lost again.


Daniel
''And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering;and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction ,one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."




Most people don't see what this really says because it speaks of Christianity and their new Gentile Messiah they are with in a 7 year covenant, but if they eve decide to walk and find out themselves, there is a plan set in place. Until then, Thee was a Jewish man once, the name was Jesus, and while many may claim this Jewish man as their Jesus, they have nothing to do with the father of this Jesus and they don't keep his ways, but they do keep the ways of a Babylonian Messiah because I see them on every Saturnalia. They also call him, Jesus.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:39 AM
 
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Yes Jesus is the messiah that was long coming as Jesus said that Abraham would of believed ..... Jesus said the Jews of His age did not have the faith of Abraham ..... The Jew built their religion on traditions , and faith on the land and most missed the salvation of Christ
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Old 03-21-2018, 05:06 AM
 
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O but you left out the Messiah that you and I were born under after Messiah came and went his way, remember, THEN the false Messiah would come? Well the false Messiah did come and as his goal was to turn the chidren of Israel away from their God, Chrstianity managed to accomplish where Daniel's anti-Christ failed, Constantine had change the times and the seasons and they made sure nobody was following the God of the bible .Don't forget the part where the false Messiah comes a=in and all his people keep his Babylonian ways up unto this day.
HF, do you realize that Mashiach simply means anointed?...That Kings and priests were also Mashiach?...
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:40 AM
 
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Addressing the OP. the Jews were Waiting for or looking for the Messiah because they had the scriptures.

but the question is "WHAT were they looking for?".

they, (the Jews), were looking for a deliverer to PHYSICALLY relieve them of the oppression of the Romans. but what they the Jews got was a deliverer from sin, which put them in physical bondage.

in old times the people sinned, and God gave them over to an oppressive nation. and they cried out and God sent human deliverer, as mention in the bible. these human could only deliver someone from physical bondage. the Jews were always looking for physical deliverance when the root cause of their physical bondage or oppression was a spiritual condition called sin. and this circle of people sinning, and God putting them in bondage continue until God put an end to sin. hence the TRUE Messiah, the anointed one who can deliver from SIN.

yes, the people, (not only Jews) were looking for Messiah, but which one. our Lord cleared up the matter as he talked with a woman at the well, scripture. John 4:25 "The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26 "Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he".

so the woman, (None Jewish), was looking for Messiah but was not sure as to his mission.

PCY
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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The Jews have been waiting for the coming Messiah? Is Jesus the promised Messiah?
YES a thousand times over HE was and is the predicted Messiah. They (Jews) should have known who He was but several things tripped them up. The Bible predicted both a suffering Messiah and a ruling Messiah, they couldn't see that in one man. They thought a true God wouldn't let himself be killed, and they considered dying on the cross a total failure. Nobody really knew what the cross meant til Paul wrote about it later.

The Jews could have been in the Kingdom already if ALL of them had accepted the Messiah. One third of the population will finally recognize Him for who He is at the end of the tribulation and the second coming.

The question for you is do you think He is your Savior?
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