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DeStefano: "Hitchens spent a good deal of his time in a Catholic hospital during the last year of his life, with priests and nuns darting through the corridors and crosses hung above all the doors. This is an important point to note because it means that up until the very end, the man who wrote that “religion poisons everything” couldn’t escape religious kindness. This ironic fact, predictably, was completely lost on his atheist followers. But it can’t be lost on us. Christ said that “Heaven and Earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.” The truth always wins out in the end. Christopher Hitchens was born with the very name of God imprinted on his identity — Christopher, after all, means bearer of Christ — and he couldn’t get away from the cross of Christ even as he lay dying. God always has the last word"
In other words, you think people should be harassed with your religious persuasions even on their death bed? That is not Christ-like. What makes you think you have a right to pester people with your beliefs?
They call it faith. If God revealed Himself to the world he has stolen that faith and made it knowledge.
Question for you. Did Paul have faith in Jesus?
Did Jesus/god reveal himself to Paul?
04-23-2018, 10:11 AM
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Well if I was dying in a Muslim hospital I would expect the same thing. It's their hospital, he didn't have to go there. Why do you think they were mocking him?
I said they were indirectly mocking him. They know damn well that he does not want any of that which has nothing to do with his medical condition or his right to be left out of their religious rituals while dying. They were challenging and defying such knowledge by imposing their beliefs and practices upon a man who was at his weakest point - as if to say, as you did, Ha! Ha! we get the last word whether you like it or not. It is pathetic and you not understanding such it also pathetic.
I said they were indirectly mocking him. They know damn well that he does not want any of that which has nothing to do with his medical condition or his right to be left out of their religious rituals while dying. They were challenging and defying such knowledge by imposing their beliefs and practices upon a man who was at his weakest point - as if to say, as you did, Ha! Ha! we get the last word whether you like it or not. It is pathetic and you not understanding such it also pathetic.
I doubt it. Hitch died in a hospital in Texas. It very well could have been Catholic run or one of the centers he received treatment could have been. There is no indication anyone treated him with disrespect. I gave birth in a hospital than was Catholic run and I don't remember seeing any crosses or priests or nuns around. In fact, I didn't even realize it was until I started fact checking this story. They could have very well have been there but I didn't notice and I certainly wouldn't have taken a cross over a door personally. I doubt Hitch or his family would have either. I mean, seriously, how petty for someone to suggest that receiving medical care in a building that has crosses is an expression of God having the last word. PFFFTTTTT I also highly doubt the Catholic church picked up the tab for Hitch's services as is suggested in the "Christian kindness" the author claims Hitch was the beneficiary of. I'm sure he could afford his own care. I had insurance when I had my daughter and that's just where I was told to go. I paid for my insurance, I paid my copayment. I wasn't the recipient of charity.
I think that this is a watered down triangulation manipulation technique used by the author of the story. He gets one group (the Christians) to believe lies about another group (the atheists) and then tries to get the atheists mad at the treatment of Hitch which didn't even happen. Then everyone has reason to treat the others harshly proving to each group that the other group is actually deserving to dehumanizing treatment. No one has done anything to anyone. Don't get sucked in.
On a side dish, I watched a video of Hitch and got a really great piece of advice I'd like to pass along. He credited another author for it but I don't remember her name.
Write like you're already dead.
I'm not an author but I think that's a pretty great way to speak as well.
I've been married to an Atheist for over 40 years. She is nothing like the article describes. She is a humble, thoughtful person who is following her truth.
sounds like you recognise that she worships in Spirit and Truth.!
sounds like you recognise that she worships in spirit and truth.!
Yep
Too soon to rep
04-23-2018, 06:42 PM
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I doubt it. Hitch died in a hospital in Texas. It very well could have been Catholic run or one of the centers he received treatment could have been. There is no indication anyone treated him with disrespect. I gave birth in a hospital than was Catholic run and I don't remember seeing any crosses or priests or nuns around. In fact, I didn't even realize it was until I started fact checking this story. They could have very well have been there but I didn't notice and I certainly wouldn't have taken a cross over a door personally. I doubt Hitch or his family would have either. I mean, seriously, how petty for someone to suggest that receiving medical care in a building that has crosses is an expression of God having the last word. PFFFTTTTT I also highly doubt the Catholic church picked up the tab for Hitch's services as is suggested in the "Christian kindness" the author claims Hitch was the beneficiary of. I'm sure he could afford his own care. I had insurance when I had my daughter and that's just where I was told to go. I paid for my insurance, I paid my copayment. I wasn't the recipient of charity.
I think that this is a watered down triangulation manipulation technique used by the author of the story. He gets one group (the Christians) to believe lies about another group (the atheists) and then tries to get the atheists mad at the treatment of Hitch which didn't even happen. Then everyone has reason to treat the others harshly proving to each group that the other group is actually deserving to dehumanizing treatment. No one has done anything to anyone. Don't get sucked in.
On a side dish, I watched a video of Hitch and got a really great piece of advice I'd like to pass along. He credited another author for it but I don't remember her name.
Write like you're already dead.
I'm not an author but I think that's a pretty great way to speak as well.
Yeah, your right it probably did not even happen! Why Christians gravitate to this sort of thing is beyond me.
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sounds like you recognise that she worships in Spirit and Truth.!
Yeah, your right it probably did not even happen! Why Christians gravitate to this sort of thing is beyond me.
I don't think it's a Christian thing. It's a lover of violence thing.
“Most atheists are pretty bitter, angry, and humorless souls. They will probably not like Anthony DeStefano’s stinging and entirely hilarious takedown of the smug and arrogant brand of pseudo-intellectualism that modern atheism has become. As his targets whine DeStefano will shine, and his revealing book will enlighten, entertain, and probably melt some snowflakes!”
—Former Governor Mike Huckabee
I couldn't cut and paste the other quote I wanted to share but it's saying there won't be any coddling or respect for their views in this book.
Matthew 5 …8Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. 10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.…
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