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A few weeks ago we saw a movie called Paul the Apostle https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Apostle-...SIN=B00022LIHK
A Hollywood Movie...yes... but if you'd humor me, I'd appreciate it.
There was a part of the movie where a lady tried to bow to Jesus mother
I believe he was long dead by then
They were Christians who were just introduced
Mary said something to the effect of Don't bow to me I am just a person
And something else in a very humble manner that meant you do not worship her
She redirected it to her earthly son Jesus being worshipped
Today I am at the Catholic Church (second time) paid to take a Client
And the congregation was re-citing some words which entailed worshipping Mother Mary
Not my imagination, it was something memorized by the congregation
My mentally disabled client can re-cite it too to a degree
Does scripture exist that reads Mary the Mother of Jesus tells some Christians she just met that she is not to be worshipped? Thank you for your help.
Sounds like it, but I think most people have heard of it before even if they are not Catholic because of TV or movies, so I would be surprised if someone didn't recognize it.
No, I don't think the movie scene you described is biblically based. It sounds like an anti-Catholic plug, actually.
A few weeks ago we saw a movie called Paul the Apostle https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Apostle-...SIN=B00022LIHK
A Hollywood Movie...yes... but if you'd humor me, I'd appreciate it.
There was a part of the movie where a lady tried to bow to Jesus mother
I believe he was long dead by then
They were Christians who were just introduced
Mary said something to the effect of Don't bow to me I am just a person
And something else in a very humble manner that meant you do not worship her
She redirected it to her earthly son Jesus being worshipped
Today I am at the Catholic Church (second time) paid to take a Client
And the congregation was re-citing some words which entailed worshipping Mother Mary
Not my imagination, it was something memorized by the congregation
My mentally disabled client can re-cite it too to a degree
Does scripture exist that reads Mary the Mother of Jesus tells some Christians she just met that she is not to be worshipped? Thank you for your help.
Well, no. There is no scripture in which Mary, or anyone else, says that she is not to be worshiped. However, scripture is pretty clear that only God is to be worshiped. Even the elect angels refuse worship and say to worship God. Twice, John, awed by the angel who is speaking to him, falls down to worship the angel who has to tell him not to do that but to worship God. If even the elect angels refuse worship, do you think that Mary would accept being worshiped?
Revelation 19:9 Then he said to me, "Write, 'Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.'" And he said to me, "These are true words of God." 10] Then I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
Revelation 22:8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9] But he said to me, "Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God."
And yes, Jesus is God and therefore is deserving of worship.
Nope. Pretty sure Mary wasn't quoted at all. I mean, she was a woman for Pete's sake. Women weren't important except to breed and make dinner.
Mary is quoted in the Bible in the passage known as The Magnificat, which she breaks into when she visits her kinswoman Elizabeth, who is also pregnant (with John the Baptist.)
Well, no. There is no scripture in which Mary, or anyone else, says that she is not to be worshiped. However, scripture is pretty clear that only God is to be worshiped. Even the elect angels refuse worship and say to worship God. Twice, John, awed by the angel who is speaking to him, falls down to worship the angel who has to tell him not to do that but to worship God. If even the elect angels refuse worship, do you think that Mary would accept being worshiped?
Revelation 19:9 Then he said to me, "Write, 'Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.'" And he said to me, "These are true words of God." 10] Then I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
Revelation 22:8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9] But he said to me, "Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God."
And yes, Jesus is God and therefore is deserving of worship.
Since God put his blessing on heterosexuality, and since Mary actually is the mother of Jesus, is it possible that those three are the Holy Trinity and that Mary represents the Holy Spirit? I know you will say, no, but this thought just occurred to me as I was thinking about it since I am not dogmatic on the trinity. Father, Son, ..... Mary (Holy Spirit) ? Could be.
And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
Luke 11:27-28 KJV
*words of Christ in red.
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Mary is quoted in the Bible in the passage known as The Magnificat, which she breaks into when she visits her kinswoman Elizabeth, who is also pregnant (with John the Baptist.)
Well, no. There is no scripture in which Mary, or anyone else, says that she is not to be worshiped. However, scripture is pretty clear that only God is to be worshiped. Even the elect angels refuse worship and say to worship God. Twice, John, awed by the angel who is speaking to him, falls down to worship the angel who has to tell him not to do that but to worship God. If even the elect angels refuse worship, do you think that Mary would accept being worshiped?
Revelation 19:9 Then he said to me, "Write, 'Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.'" And he said to me, "These are true words of God." 10] Then I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
Revelation 22:8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9] But he said to me, "Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God."
And yes, Jesus is God and therefore is deserving of worship.
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Since God put his blessing on heterosexuality, and since Mary actually is the mother of Jesus, is it possible that those three are the Holy Trinity and that Mary represents the Holy Spirit? I know you will say, no, but this thought just occurred to me as I was thinking about it since I am not dogmatic on the trinity. Father, Son, ..... Mary (Holy Spirit) ? Could be.
Since the Holy Spirit is mentioned in the Old Testament, and therefore preexisted Mary, and since the Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity, I don't see how Mary could represent the Holy Spirit or herself be understood to be a part of the Trinity. In Psalm 51:11, (51:13 in the Tanakh) David prays that the Holy Spirit not be taken from him.
Psalm 51:11 Do not cast me away from Your presence And do not take Your Holy Spirit (qodesh ruach) from me.
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