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Old 05-22-2018, 08:28 AM
 
Location: USA
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Ops the word for destruction is "apolia" and means utter destruction.

...
The same apollymi which, purportedly, Jesus said the Son of Man came to save.

“For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.” Matt. 18:11



https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/.../t_conc_947011
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:00 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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The scientist: Genesis story is ridiculous as is the rest of the Old Testament. And, parts of the New Testament is corrupt too! Science makes its own truth. I am a Christian

The Worldly: the Bible is full of contradictions. Getting high and drunk is not a sin. My philosophy aligns with Oprah. It feels good it must be right. I am a Christian too

The sexual deviant: The Bible is wrong and hateful concerning sexual behavior. Parts of has been changed by haters. hooray! Finally, we can marry whomever and whatever we want. I am a Christian but I tell my friends I am New Age

The post modernist: the Bible has been corrupted, changed, and misinterpreted. Jesus is a great teacher and role model. Everyone will enter heaven. I am a Christian and everyone is a moron for not agreeing with me

The cultist: jesus is a wonderful teacher but he is not truly God. The Spirit whispers to me telling me the real story. I am a Christian as the voices tell me so.

The fundlamentalist: Father in heaven. Thank you for sending your Son to save a sinner like me. I am so grateful for your wonderful Word. I am... the Elect.

What made your a Christian?
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The scientist: Genesis story is ridiculous as is the rest of the Old Testament. And, parts of the New Testament is corrupt too! Science makes its own truth. I am a Christian

The Worldly: the Bible is full of contradictions. Getting high and drunk is not a sin. My philosophy aligns with Oprah. It feels good it must be right. I am a Christian too

The sexual deviant: The Bible is wrong and hateful concerning sexual behavior. Parts of has been changed by haters. hooray! Finally, we can marry whomever and whatever we want. I am a Christian but I tell my friends I am New Age

The post modernist: the Bible has been corrupted, changed, and misinterpreted. Jesus is a great teacher and role model. Everyone will enter heaven. I am a Christian and everyone is a moron for not agreeing with me

The cultist: jesus is a wonderful teacher but he is not truly God. The Spirit whispers to me telling me the real story. I am a Christian as the voices tell me so.

The fundlamentalist: Father in heaven. Thank you for sending your Son to save a sinner like me. I am so grateful for your wonderful Word. I am... the Elect.
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What made you a Christian?
He is the "chosen" the anointed one, or didn't you hear him ...the Elect?
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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The same apollymi which, purportedly, Jesus said the Son of Man came to save.

“For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.” Matt. 18:11



https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/.../t_conc_947011
Thank you Pleroo!

The Son of man came to seek and to save that which was destroyed.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The same apollymi which, purportedly, Jesus said the Son of Man came to save.

“For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.” Matt. 18:11



https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/.../t_conc_947011
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Thank you Pleroo!

The Son of man came to seek and to save that which was destroyed.
...that which perished.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The same apollymi which, purportedly, Jesus said the Son of Man came to save.

“For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.” Matt. 18:11
Will you let Him?

One thief on the cross let Him, and the other ridiculed Him.

To the one who let Him, he said "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

There was no 3rd person who said "I reject you, but I demand you save me anyway"

That 3rd person is the modern day universalist.

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Old 05-22-2018, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Will you let Him?

One thief on the cross let Him, and the other ridiculed Him.

To the one who let Him, he said "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

Which I guess was a fib because he spent a day or two in a tomb first. Or so the story goes.


Unless, of course, he meant the tomb. Maybe he wanted some company before un-deading himself.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: USA
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Will you let Him?

One thief on the cross let Him, and the other ridiculed Him.

To the one who let Him, he said "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."
I didn't realize it at the time, but I needed saving from being a fundamentalist Christian because it was destroying me. God dragged me out of it in spite of my lack of awareness. Hallelujah!
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I didn't realize it at the time, but I needed saving from being a fundamentalist Christian because it was destroying me. God dragged me out of it in spite of my lack of awareness. Hallelujah!

And many of us celebrate your freedom.
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Will you let Him?
I believe what Jesus the Christ said regarding His drawing power. "And if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all mankind unto Me"

draw=

"I will draw all mankind unto Myself"

The primary definition of the word 'draw' in Greek "helkuo" is to literally draw, drag off forcefully, impel, pull with power.

So

We may be impelled, we may be dragged off forcefully, (kicking and screaming perhaps), or pulled by His power; but He draws all mankind unto Himself!
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