The Most Rev. Michael Bruce Curry (sex, experience, pastors, sunday)
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No doubt taming it was man's first giant step towards today.
Yup. that was the theme he used.
"Pierre Teilhard de Chardin - and with this I will sit down, we gotta get you all married - French Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin was arguably one of the great minds, great spirits of the 20th century.
"Jesuit, Roman Catholic priest, scientist, a scholar, a mystic.
"In some of his writings, he said, from his scientific background as well as his theological one, in some of his writings he said - as others have - that the discovery, or invention, or harnessing of fire was one of the great scientific and technological discoveries in all of human history.
"Fire to a great extent made human civilisation possible. Fire made it possible to cook food and to provide sanitary ways of eating which reduced the spread of disease in its time.
"Fire made it possible to heat warm environments and thereby made human migration around the world a possibility, even into colder climates.
"Fire made it possible - there was no Bronze Age without fire, no Iron Age without fire, no Industrial Revolution without fire.
"The advances of fire and technology are greatly dependent on the human ability and capacity to take fire and use it for human good.
"Anybody get here in a car today? An automobile? Nod your heads if you did - I know there were some carriages. But those of us who came in cars, fire - the controlled, harnessed fire - made that possible.
"I know that the Bible says, and I believe it, that Jesus walked on the water. But I have to tell you, I did not walk across the Atlantic Ocean to get here.
"Controlled fire in that plane got me here. Fire makes it possible for us to text and tweet and email and Instagram and Facebook and socially be dysfunctional with each other.(Especially like that one, lol)
"Fire makes all of that possible, and de Chardin said fire was one of the greatest discoveries in all of human history.
"And he then went on to say that if humanity ever harnesses the energy of fire again, if humanity ever captures the energy of love - it will be the second time in history that we have discovered fire."
Not at all. I grew up in the Reformed Church. Like most churches that lean toward the Bible being inerrant/literal, they focus heavily on sin/death/hell. That's the opposite of the Episcopal Church. They will jump right up with you and point to the Episcopalians as hell-bound. But, they use the Apostles Creed.
Anyway, you've got the advantage of Real Live People on this thread who attend Episcopal churches telling you our perspectives. Sometimes that's far more accurate than "reading" something.
Evangelicals will do that to all Liturgical and liberal churches it seems, including the mainstream "Church of England" and it's derivatives.
Most Protestants I know are high church Anglicans fwiw.
As Rev Curry said today in an interview...he was a bit nervous with millions of
people watching...but he did what he always does , talks TO the couples' souls,
and thereby you are talking to all souls. xo
As Rev Curry said today in an interview...he was a bit nervous with millions of
people watching...but he did what he always does , talks TO the couples' souls,
and thereby you are talking to all souls. xo
I watched that today and am glad I did. He seems like a very likable chap. Referenced Dr MLK as well
I skipped the wedding on tv. Fact is I hate weddings ( we eloped)
But I will seek out more from this man and enjoy his thoughts and ideas.
Having been on the clergy side of the church world for the last 30 years, Ive learned a few things. One of those, is that pastors lie a lot. Most are not much different than politicians. They tell people what they want to hear, so that people will keep coming and put money in the offering so that they can keep their jobs. Most are much more liberal than they will let on. I'll cite two examples from denominations that are in fellowship with the Episcopal church.
1. I heard a Presvyterian pastor say on Easter Sunday, concerning Jesus resurrection, "we're no sure what happened, but something happened".
2. A pastor who left the ELCA, for a conservative Lutheran denomination wrote a tell all book about about all the teachings he learned while there that were contrary to the Bible. If anyone is interested, it called "Whats going on among the Lutherans.
Besides that, it is totally contrary to Gods word to approve of the murder of babies, and sex outside the bonds of marriage. Those are the kind of teachings that come from people who dont take the Bible seriously.
Having been on the clergy side of the church world for the last 30 years, Ive learned a few things. One of those, is that pastors lie a lot. Most are not much different than politicians. They tell people what they want to hear, so that people will keep coming and put money in the offering so that they can keep their jobs. Most are much more liberal than they will let on. I'll cite two examples from denominations that are in fellowship with the Episcopal church.
1. I heard a Presvyterian pastor say on Easter Sunday, concerning Jesus resurrection, "we're no sure what happened, but something happened".
2. A pastor who left the ELCA, for a conservative Lutheran denomination wrote a tell all book about about all the teachings he learned while there that were contrary to the Bible. If anyone is interested, it called "Whats going on among the Lutherans.
Besides that, it is totally contrary to Gods word to approve of the murder of babies, and sex outside the bonds of marriage. Those are the kind of teachings that come from people who dont take the Bible seriously.
When you say such ridiculous things, it's hard to take YOU seriously.
But despite your silly backflipping attempts to disparage non-Fundamentalist Christians, the point is that they don't take the Bible LITERALLY.
So if a group of Christians makes it clear that they take the Bible not as a literal, dictated "Word of God" but rather uses it in the context in which and by whom and when it was written, what exactly is your point?
You brag that you've "learned a few things", but it looks as if there's a few other things you haven't learned, because you seem to keep repeating the same incorrect stuff over and over.
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Why do these faux Christian ministers take the title "Reverend"? That word is never used once in the New Testament. I'm guessing it has to do with their vanity and pride.
Why do these faux Christian ministers take the title "Reverend"? That word is never used once in the New Testament. I'm guessing it has to do with their vanity and pride.
It's a traditional term that's been around for centuries. You never heard it before? :dubious
The Reformed Church uses the title "Reverend" in front of a pastor's name; e.g., "Reverend Stiffnecked".
The Episcopal Church uses it as a descriptive for a priest or bishop and never as a title; e.g., "The Reverend Stiffnecked".
How exactly are you authorized to determine that an Episcopal bishop is a "faux Christian minister"? Is "minister" in the New Testament? And what does it existing or not existing in the New Testament have to do with anything? Oh wait, you probably have a memory verse to quote. Spare me. Sorry I asked!
Methinks you need to look at your own vanity and pride.
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