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Old 05-29-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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After reading all the comments on this thread, it turns out the problem with your view has already been explained to you in perfect clarity. Repetition won't help.

Salvation is through faith. No other "community commitments" are needed.
Actually, Finn, I am no clearer on why you and Mike don't believe that repentance is part of the salvation plan as taught by Jesus. Can you do no better job than him?
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually, Finn, I am no clearer on why you and Mike don't believe that repentance is part of the salvation plan as taught by Jesus. Can you do no better job than him?
The problems with your view were explained in perfect clarity. If you don't get it, then its on you.
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:56 PM
 
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Actually, Finn, I am no clearer on why you and Mike don't believe that repentance is part of the salvation plan as taught by Jesus. Can you do no better job than him?
Question... how do I know you are alive... physically?
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The problems with your view were explained in perfect clarity. If you don't get it, then its on you.
So, no, you can't explain why you don't believe that repentance as taught by Jesus is part of the plan of salvation.

Could it be because it clearly IS?
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Question... how do I know you are alive... physically?
You don't, DRob, I could be a program for all you know. Would you like to actually make a point? Can you explain Mike and Finn's quandry?
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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So, no, you can't explain why you don't believe that repentance as taught by Jesus is part of the plan of salvation.

Could it be because it clearly IS?
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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You don't, DRob, I could be a program for all you know. Would you like to actually make a point? Can you explain Mike and Finn's quandry?
I have a point, but if you can't take a minute to answer to my question, neither will I bother with your question.

How do you know anyone that you see is alive? It's not a trick question.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have a point, but if you can't take a minute to answer to my question, neither will I bother with your question.

How do you know anyone that you see is alive? It's not a trick question.
Stop with the guessing-game, and make your point?
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:26 PM
 
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So, no, you can't explain why you don't believe that repentance as taught by Jesus is part of the plan of salvation.

Could it be because it clearly IS?
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:42 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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You don't, DRob, I could be a program for all you know. Would you like to actually make a point? Can you explain Mike and Finn's quandry?
I'm not in a quandary. The only thing necessary to receive eternal life is to place your faith in Christ Jesus. Period. No commitment, no promises, no giving up anything, no turning from sin. After the believer has been saved through faith alone in Christ alone, if he is growing spiritually then he should be sinning less, but he will still sin. But turning from sin is simply not a requirement to receive the free gift of eternal life.

You hold to the concept of so called 'Lordship salvation' which denies that salvation is by grace through faith alone in Christ alone. I hold to what the scriptures actually say with regard to the issue of salvation.
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