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Not sure about going through the flaming swords... but all believers/overcomers will go through a judgment of fire (1 Corinthians 3:10-15) based on the deeds done on earth.
That is not Judgment on the believer but his deeds.
06-04-2018, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC
Not sure about going through the flaming swords... but all believers/overcomers will go through a judgment of fire (1 Corinthians 3:10-15) based on the deeds done on earth.
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Originally Posted by SumTingy
That is not Judgment on the believer but his deeds.
Then there is really nothing to discuss since you don't think it's real.
It's not about 'real or not real?' - the idea that something did or did not happen - of course there was some process that went on that caused a feeling of alienation from Father.
The question is whether the narrative description is 'literal or figurative?' ...one has to ask themselves that question about every element of the narrative or one is not taking the subject matter, and especially how God speaks to man, seriously. What does it mean for every single person and how they relate to the Father.
The point is that I AM Adam, and I also have to PASS through the flaming swords, and so are you and so do you - that is the revelation that Rose is bringing to us.
To blame some singular guy several thousand years ago is the accuser of the brethren - to say he "sinned" (and especially because 'God said so') is of the same spirit as the biblical satan.
The limit of judgement is 'let a man examine himself'.
Adam sinned and God took him out of the garden of Eden and put God`s angelic host to protect the tree of life ...... See Adam did eat from the tree as He lived for 930 years before he died ...... If Adam ate from the tree of life after he sinned against God then the whole human race would have been condemned like the demons and the fallen angels with No salvation from Jesus would have come ............Then , even Angels are not just imaginary conjecture of ideas , where I witnessed two a few years ago , as two messenger Holy Angels flew by me , were both had pure white wings like doves feathers and then disappeared in the spirit .. Glory to God
It's nice that you had an open vision and saw angels. Really, it is.
But the rest of your post doesn't cross over the 'literal or figurative?' credibility gap, as I've implied in the post above. Do you really believe there was a literal tree, or trees, a literal garden, literal fruit, literal angels with flaming swords...? And if so, (more importantly), where is all of that right now and how should it be applied?
Edit: I'd like GPS coordinates for the tree of life please.
Last edited by Age-enduring; 06-04-2018 at 11:55 PM..
It's not about 'real or not real?' - the idea that something did or did not happen - of course there was some process that went on that caused a feeling of alienation from Father.
The question is whether the narrative description is 'literal or figurative?' ...one has to ask themselves that question about every element of the narrative or one is not taking the subject matter, and especially how God speaks to man, seriously. What does it mean for every single person and how they relate to the Father.
The point is that I AM Adam, and I also have to PASS through the flaming swords, and so are you and so do you - that is the revelation that Rose is bringing to us.
To blame some singular guy several thousand years ago is the accuser of the brethren - to say he "sinned" (and especially because 'God said so') is of the same spirit as the biblical satan.
The limit of judgement is 'let a man examine himself'.
My friend, you are absolutely correct! We are Adam and require a present progressive operation of His love and grace to feast on a Meal that transcends anything of which we can ask or think!
Believers and the lost are on two different paths where judgment is concerned. The lost who have rejected Christ and remain in their sins still depart immediately upon death to the torment side of hades, they won't be judged until after the end of the millenium. They will be resurrected and fitted with a body suitable for hell, then judged at the Great White throne. You are eternally doomed if you are in that line.
The believer experiences something vastly different, not really a judgment at all but a recognition of rewards. The believer is whisked into the presence of the Lord, he is already in heaven. He then receives rewards and crowns (or lack of) for what was done in this life. A glorious eternity awaits.......with a glorified body of perfection........
Believers and the lost are on two different paths where judgment is concerned. The lost who have rejected Christ and remain in their sins still depart immediately upon death to the torment side of hades, they won't be judged until after the end of the millenium. They will be resurrected and fitted with a body suitable for hell, then judged at the Great White throne. You are eternally doomed if you are in that line.
The believer experiences something vastly different, not really a judgment at all but a recognition of rewards. The believer is whisked into the presence of the Lord, he is already in heaven. He then receives rewards and crowns (or lack of) for what was done in this life. A glorious eternity awaits.......with a glorified body of perfection........
My friend, you must allow the Spirit of the Lord to expand your limited horizon!
I was just taking a little visit to the friendship link on C.D. A post near the end is one of the reasons I believe, with all that is within me, that our Father's intention in the Son of His love will be consummated in fulness!
The Saviour of all mankind has many glorious aspects to His salvation in Christ Jesus. Little sick children, old codgers, those who could not follow Jesus Christ, the whole mass of a broken race crying out for deliverance (wether they know it yet or not.)
Shall be delivered!
" For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body."
Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty we're free at last!
"That all living things will be made free from the power of death and will have a part with the free children of God in glory."
"until both creation and all the creatures are ready and can be released at the same moment into the glorious times ahead. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens."
Believers and the lost are on two different paths where judgment is concerned. The lost who have rejected Christ and remain in their sins still depart immediately upon death to the torment side of hades, they won't be judged until after the end of the millenium. They will be resurrected and fitted with a body suitable for hell, then judged at the Great White throne. You are eternally doomed if you are in that line.
The believer experiences something vastly different, not really a judgment at all but a recognition of rewards. The believer is whisked into the presence of the Lord, he is already in heaven. He then receives rewards and crowns (or lack of) for what was done in this life. A glorious eternity awaits.......with a glorified body of perfection........
There's not REALLY a flaming sword, but the imagery is lovely.
We humans have a hard time getting to the Tree of Knowledge. I think we put the flaming swords there ourselves.
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