Extreme liberal Christian singers, etc (churches, scriptures, Jesus, worship)
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I hear most Christians here condemning any "liberal" Christians as if they were heretics. What do conservative Christians think of the more extreme liberal Christian singers like Bono (U2) who is probably off the chart compared to most liberal Christians?
He has said things like Gandhi was the only real Christian he knew about, etc. And that he didn't consider himself to be a Christian sometimes. He has also said that one of the Atheist members of U2 was a "true Christian". Etc.
I'm sure there are other examples like this but he is the first one that comes to mind.
Last edited by OzzyRules; 12-04-2017 at 06:10 PM..
I hear most Christians here condemning any "liberal" Christians as if they were heretics. What do conservative Christians think of the more extreme liberal Christian singers like Bono (U2) who is probably off the chart compared to most liberal Christians?
He has said things like Gandhi was the only real Christian he knew about, etc. And that he didn't consider himself to be a Christian sometimes. He has also said that one of the Atheist members of U2 was a "true Christian". Etc.
I'm sure there are other examples like this but he is the first one that comes to mind.
My first thought is that he isn't a christian at all,
but gloms onto the christian churches in hopes that
his god might go easier on him.
But you never know, I wouldn't have known
that Alice Cooper is a Christian, but for an
interview they did with him a few years ago.
We can examine the fruit in a man's life (not just his words,
and not just his works) and make an educated guess of his
walk with God, but it is impossible to actually know.
My first thought is that he isn't a christian at all,
but gloms onto the christian churches in hopes that
his god might go easier on him.
But you never know, I wouldn't have known
that Alice Cooper is a Christian, but for an
interview they did with him a few years ago.
We can examine the fruit in a man's life (not just his words,
and not just his works) and make an educated guess of his
walk with God, but it is impossible to actually know.
Do you really think that Alice Cooper is a better Christian than Bono just because of the things he says and believes in his heart?
Don't you think that the outward expression of the Heart, action, is more important than what a person believes?
Since I'm not God, it's not up to me to judge Bono or Alice Cooper. If you think you're God, then stand on that throne of judgement. Apparently many consider themselves God. I hope you/they enjoy the blasphemy of your actions.
The music is there for enjoyment. I can listen to and appreciate music more when I'm not judging. I leave to God what rightfully belongs to him. Humans suck at judging the hearts of others. And all this labelling crap ("liberals") is for pussees (sic). Humans suck at labelling people. It's all the same shyt.
Last edited by Thoreau424; 12-04-2017 at 07:31 PM..
they are just men like anyone else.
Now if either identifies me as their sister because there is a core of the same truth and experience and the same heart of worship of our God in common.. , then I will identify with them as a brother.. a family knows each other by their lifestyle and their family ties and experiences .
I heard U2 on the way home. I thought the lyrics to A Beautiful Day had that message to them.
Touch me
Take me to that other place
Reach me
I know I'm not a hopeless case
What you don't have you don't need it now
What you don't know you can feel it somehow
What you don't have you don't need it now
Don't need it now
Was a beautiful day
Do you really think that Alice Cooper is a better Christian than Bono just because of the things he says and believes in his heart?
Don't you think that the outward expression of the Heart, action, is more important than what a person believes?
No. Faith is the really important thing in Christianity. Remember, the Scriptures say that without faith, it is impossible to please God.
All else follows. Look at Ephesians 2:8-10. Read it carefully. Look at it in a half dozen translations (unless you know the Greek, then look at the Greek). Look at the context. The surrounding verses, the whole book, and all of Paul's writings. Faith is foremost, and faith is central.
No. Faith is the really important thing in Christianity. Remember, the Scriptures say that without faith, it is impossible to please God.
All else follows. Look at Ephesians 2:8-10. Read it carefully. Look at it in a half dozen translations (unless you know the Greek, then look at the Greek). Look at the context. The surrounding verses, the whole book, and all of Paul's writings. Faith is foremost, and faith is central.
they are just men like anyone else.
Now if either identifies me as their sister because there is a core of the same truth and experience and the same heart of worship of our God in common.. , then I will identify with them as a brother.. a family knows each other by their lifestyle and their family ties and experiences .
so you would"judge"their lifestyle in terms of measuring up to what you believe?
Should they only measure up in 6 out of 7 categories?
Should they only measure up in 4 out of 7 categories?
Just how similar does one have to be to your interpretation to be "identified" as a brother?
No. Faith is the really important thing in Christianity. Remember, the Scriptures say that without faith, it is impossible to please God.
All else follows. Look at Ephesians 2:8-10. Read it carefully. Look at it in a half dozen translations (unless you know the Greek, then look at the Greek). Look at the context. The surrounding verses, the whole book, and all of Paul's writings. Faith is foremost, and faith is central.
So Christ was once again WRONG when He said LOVE is the GREATEST and most really important thing in terms to having a relationship with GOD??
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