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Old 05-21-2020, 09:37 PM
 
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The rest of us created in the image of our parents..........yes we are....
.... and our first parents were Adam and Eve.
God's purpose was that we all be descendants of father Adam and mother Eve.

God's main attributes are: love, justice, wisdom and mercy.
So, to varying degrees we can image those attributes or qualities.
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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Genesis 4:1

Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man.”
So literally?
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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So literally?
Yes
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So literally?
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Yes
It's an easy way to differentiate between fundies and regular Christians.

Fundies can't see beyond the literal words. They swallow them wholesale.

Regular Christians are able to discern wheat from chaff. Thankfully, they are by far in the majority and fundies are on the fast track to extinction.
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:04 AM
 
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Yes
It makes no logical sense to claim that the Adam and Eve story is a true literal explanation of morality, evil or mankind's imperfection. Mankind is not perfect. If God exists, God created mankind as not perfect. The Adam and Eve story was a failed attempt by us to explain why we are not perfect.

The Adam and Eve theodicy fails as an explanation for why we choose evil sometimes, original sin is not a valid explanation for why God created evil. Also it is an immoral story, for God punishes people who chose an action without knowing that such a choice was bad.

Another issue with this story is with Genesis 3:7. Adam and Eve realize that they naked because they gained the Knowledge of Good and Evil. So, they covered themselves up and hid from God (3:10). This means that nakedness must be bad - if it was good, there would be no need to hide themselves. But if nakedness was bad, then, why did God create them naked? And why would nakedness be bad, between a pair who are as if husband and wife? This single verse alone hints that Genesis is telling a creation myth, rather than instructing us is anything important about what we should believe.

Other questions that don't make sense for the literal view:

Did God Create More People than Just Adam and Eve?
Why Was the Serpent in the Garden of Eden?
After Adam and Eve had children, how did they proceed onto the third generation without incest when God specifically condemned incest in the bible?
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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The " let us..." of Genesis 1:26 is about God and His beginning of his heavenly created Son - Revelation 3:14 B.
So, God and his first creation the pre-human heavenly Jesus comprise the ' us ' of Genesis 1:26.
I think, it implies what human bring is: soul/spirit from God in earthly vehicle.
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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It makes no logical sense to claim that the Adam and Eve story is a true literal explanation of morality, evil or mankind's imperfection. Mankind is not perfect. If God exists, God created mankind as not perfect. The Adam and Eve story was a failed attempt by us to explain why we are not perfect.

The Adam and Eve theodicy fails as an explanation for why we choose evil sometimes, original sin is not a valid explanation for why God created evil. Also it is an immoral story, for God punishes people who chose an action without knowing that such a choice was bad.

Another issue with this story is with Genesis 3:7. Adam and Eve realize that they naked because they gained the Knowledge of Good and Evil. So, they covered themselves up and hid from God (3:10). This means that nakedness must be bad - if it was good, there would be no need to hide themselves. But if nakedness was bad, then, why did God create them naked? And why would nakedness be bad, between a pair who are as if husband and wife? This single verse alone hints that Genesis is telling a creation myth, rather than instructing us is anything important about what we should believe.

Other questions that don't make sense for the literal view:

Did God Create More People than Just Adam and Eve?
Why Was the Serpent in the Garden of Eden?
After Adam and Eve had children, how did they proceed onto the third generation without incest when God specifically condemned incest in the bible?
Jesus taught that God created one man and one woman (Mark 10:6) and mentions Abel, a son of Adam and Eve in Luke 11:51.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Adam-and-Eve-story.html
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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The " let us..." of Genesis 1:26 is about God and His beginning of his heavenly created Son - Revelation 3:14 B.
So, God and his first creation the pre-human heavenly Jesus comprise the ' us ' of Genesis 1:26.
G-d was actually conferring with His heavenly counsel when He said that...
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:05 PM
 
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Jesus taught that God created one man and one woman (Mark 10:6) and mentions Abel, a son of Adam and Eve in Luke 11:51.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Adam-and-Eve-story.html
Typical of gotquestions quotes, you failed to answer any of the questions posed by Diesel350z.

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Old 05-22-2020, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Jesus taught that God created one man and one woman (Mark 10:6) and mentions Abel, a son of Adam and Eve in Luke 11:51.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Adam-and-Eve-story.html
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Typical of gotquestions quotes, you failed to answer any of the questions posed by Diesel350z.

He argues from a pre-selected genealogy based upon two people, which has nothing to do with all of humanity.
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