Are there different Degrees of Torture in Hell? (Kingdom, blood, Matthew)
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According to the Bible, all Non-christians will be sent to Eternal Torture in Fire. But what if a Non- christian has been law-abiding and charitable all his life. Will he be tortured just as much in the fire as Evil-doers?
I'm sure that everybody will agree that murder is the most evil deed of all. So don't you feel that murderers should receive far greater punishment in Hell than others?
The point is that there are crimes and atrocities that are much more evil and heinous than others. Let's say, what if someone was just a pathological Liar, will his punishment in Hell be just as agonizing as all other offenses? Many Christians believe so.
And what about prostitutes and Gamblers and husbands who cheat on their wives? Will they receive just as much punishment, just as much torture in Hell as other offenses? Many Christians believe so.
It's different here on Earth where evildoers receive punishment in different degrees according to the individual severity of their crimes. Why is it reversed in Hell?
I'm not a believer, but if I were, I surely wouldn't want to have anything to do with a God who would send somebody to a place where they could be tortured even a little bit. Geez. Even here on earth, as you say, no civil society tortures those who break the law. You do realize you're not making the case of a loving God here, right?
I'm not a believer, but if I were, I surely wouldn't want to have anything to do with a God who would send somebody to a place where they could be tortured even a little bit. Geez. Even here on earth, as you say, no civil society ( BINGO !!! ) those who break the law. You do realize you're not making the case of a loving God here, right?
Mar 12:27
He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Luk 20:38
For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
BLAME MEN FOR WHAT HAPPENS THERE NOT GOD.. LEGALLY IT ISN'T HIS DOMAIN,
IT IS MANKINDS PLACE AND WHY JESUS COULD ONLY GET THERE AS A DEAD MAN...
NOT AS A LIVING GOD..AND HAD TO REMOVE( HIS "GLORY"/ THE DOVE AT HIS BAPTISM ) AT THE MOUNT OF TRANSFIGURATION GIVING IT TO MOSES AND WHY MOSES GLOWED WHEN HE CAME OFF THE MOUNTAIN AND SEEMS HER HAD BEEN TRIPPING AROUND IN TIME.....
STOP POINTING YOUR FINGER AT GOD....
WHEN YOU HAVE 4 POINTING BACK AT YOURSELF.. THAT PLACE IS ALL YOURS..AND IT IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DO ANYTHING THAT SUITS YOUR FANCY THERE.. THERE IS NO LAWS..
BUIT IT IS NOT HIS IT IS YOURS..... IT IS FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO..
MEN COUDL HAVE MADE IT HEAVE.. BUT IT IS NOT..
He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Luk 20:38
For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
BLAME MEN FOR WHAT HAPPENS THERE NOT GOD.. LEGALLY IT ISN'T HIS DOMAIN,
IT IS MANKINDS PLACE AND WHY JESUS COULD ONLY GET THERE AS A DEAD MAN...
NOT AS A LIVING GOD..AND HAD TO REMOVE( HIS "GLORY"/ THE DOVE AT HIS BAPTISM ) AT THE MOUNT OF TRANSFIGURATION GIVING IT TO MOSES AND WHY MOSES GLOWED WHEN HE CAME OFF THE MOUNTAIN AND SEEMS HER HAD BEEN TRIPPING AROUND IN TIME.....
STOP POINTING YOUR FINGER AT GOD....
WHEN YOU HAVE 4 POINTING BACK AT YOURSELF.. THAT PLACE IS ALL YOURS..AND IT IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DO ANYTHING THAT SUITS YOUR FANCY THERE.. THERE IS NO LAWS..
BUIT IT IS NOT HIS IT IS YOURS..... IT IS FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO..
MEN COUDL HAVE MADE IT HEAVE.. BUT IT IS NOT..
Are you yelling at me or trying to convert me or what?
I'm not a believer, but if I were, I surely wouldn't want to have anything to do with a God who would send somebody to a place where they could be tortured even a little bit. Geez. Even here on earth, as you say, no civil society tortures those who break the law. You do realize you're not making the case of a loving God here, right?
Our God is a benevolent judge, but He is a judge, and will sentence the wicked and ungodly to an awful existence.
14 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd:
“Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15 These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17 “‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[c]
22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[d] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. 25 David said about him:
“‘I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will rest in hope,
27 because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,
you will not let your holy one see decay.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.’[e]
29 “Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. 32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,
“‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
35 until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”’[f]
36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”
37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 Peter replied,
“Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them,
“Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”
41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
The Fellowship of the Believers
42 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.
do any of you see proof of a joy filled soul on this site ?
no men do not understand our benevolent God at all..
except for a few moments, he endured the cross with joy .... as we all will.. because we are to take up our cross daily .. too....
guys this is serious stuff and it sure as hell is.. .....it isn't a blessing you party.
the enemy is real and the hell you hate , well it is yours, it was not ever his!!!
... he had to die to wrestle it from all your hands!!
and he did it knowing one day he would empty it of all the people who went there to hide from him..
Our God is a benevolent judge, but He is a judge, and will sentence the wicked and ungodly to an awful existence.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
Your view of God makes him a mass-murderer or serial-killer; a hanging judge, not a benevolent judge.
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Originally Posted by n..Xuipa
ok so my God sent his beloved son to die for you....
so his benevolence is something you obviously do not understand about him either ..
The love of God comes from a heart of mercy and forgiveness, not one of condemnation.
Punishing the innocent so that the guilty can go free is an absurdity beyond ridiculous.
The love of God comes from a heart of mercy and forgiveness, not one of condemnation.
Punishing the innocent so that the guilty can go free is an absurdity beyond ridiculous.
ok so your excuse is ?
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