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This is why the Bible was written so we would know what happens when we die, and why we die.
According to Scripture Jesus knows what happens when we die, this is why Jesus taught sleep in death (John 11:11-14).
Especially when unfaithful Jews began mixing with the Greeks they adopted a religious-myth teaching about death.
Already the non-biblical world had been populated in a wave of migration from ancient Babylon.
As the people left ancient Babylon they took with them their religious ideas and practices and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great.
This is why we see so many similar or overlapping religious concepts or ideas throughout the world today.
The result is a religious syncretism, a fusion of differing systems of belief that can Not be reconciled to biblical Christianity.
The secular became blended with the sacred, thus taking on a life of its own.
Beliefs so deeply embedded in people's minds that it is now so very hard to erase.
So hard to the point that when their religious mirage is exposed they still insist on keeping that mirage alive.
That's my point. Your assertion is according to scripture. But only those who believe them believe the account of what happens when we die. Not everyone believes that account.
But our God is also a righteous judge, and He has pronounced sentence on the lawbreaker. Because He is love, He offers a pardon, in the person of Jesus Christ. Each lawbreaker must decide if he or she will accept that pardon. That decides one’s eternal fate.
God either sent his beloved son to die for us, as you say, or he didn't. If he did, we should all be fine. You don't have unconditional love with conditions. Otherwise, it's not unconditional love and God is no better than a bad parent.
Jesus took away the sins of the whole world including you. That is only part of salvation, you have to appropriate the free gift through faith and belief in Jesus ONLY. Believe the gospel of grace and you are saved eternally.........do it right where you are. No tithing, no law, no water baptism, no priests needed.
The poor fundies are ever-so concerned that there's no hell. It would totally harsh their heavenly buzz if they couldn't hear the screaming chorus of the eternally toasted.
Jesus/bible mentions many times about being 'refined by fire', like silver/gold:
how many here understand the process of refining molten metal by burning away impurities, and sometimes adding 'a flux' to drive further purification/conversion (reducing oxides to pure metal)?
At what point does this occur for someone; certainly no-one will enter the final destination in an impure state?
God either sent his beloved son to die for us, as you say, or he didn't. If he did, we should all be fine. You don't have unconditional love with conditions. Otherwise, it's not unconditional love and God is no better than a bad parent.
I had to dig back to find this... the underlined is not exactly true.
The issue that keeps us separate from God is sin.
There are two issues that God addresses - one is payment for sin, the another is cleansing from sin. Both are handled by God.
The payment for sin is the death of Christ. He did that for all. However, we are still unclean. His death for all did not change the fact that we are unclean because of the presence of sin in us (not the acts of sin).
We are made clean through faith in the gospel of Christ. When God knows that we have believed in the gospel, he sends the Holy Spirit into the spirit of that person. His presence in us is our cleansing. This cleansing is why the presence of the Holy Spirit from God through faith in the gospel is necessary for salvation.
I had to dig back to find this... the underlined is not exactly true.
The issue that keeps us separate from God is sin.
There are two issues that God addresses - one is payment for sin, the another is cleansing from sin. Both are handled by God.
The payment for sin is the death of Christ. He did that for all. However, we are still unclean. His death for all did not change the fact that we are unclean because of the presence of sin in us (not the acts of sin).
We are made clean through faith in the gospel of Christ. When God knows that we have believed in the gospel, he sends the Holy Spirit into the spirit of that person. His presence in us is our cleansing. This cleansing is why the presence of the Holy Spirit from God through faith in the gospel is necessary for salvation.
What about the THIRD issue - damage caused by sin;
say you murder someone - you say "'God handles your sin, and also purifies you, so you're 'saved'." WHAT about the person murdered???
What about the THIRD issue - damage caused by sin;
say you murder someone - you say "'God handles your sin, and also purifies you, so you're 'saved'." WHAT about the person murdered???
Did that person have the Holy Spirit through faith when he was murdered?
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