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Old 08-30-2018, 01:07 AM
 
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J. R. R. Tolkien was not only the author of the best-selling novel ever written, but a fierce Catholic. Nearly 55 years ago in a letter penned to his son, Tolkien offered a prophetic message on having unwavering Faith despite grave scandal in the clergy.

“Besides the Sun there may be moonlight but if the Sun were removed
there would be no Moon to see. What would Christianity now be if the Roman Church has in fact been destroyed?” – Letter 250, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien


Interesting letter written by Tolkien years ago.
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Old 08-30-2018, 03:03 AM
 
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Uh-oh, I think you opened up a can worms. I predict an intelligent list will be made of benefits...and then the thread will have to be closed.
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Old 08-30-2018, 04:56 AM
 
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It's completely hypocritical to read Tolkien while ridiculing his faith. His faith is what inspired his writing.

I say that because I know that is what is going to happen on this thread.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:00 AM
 
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It's completely hypocritical to read Tolkien while ridiculing his faith. His faith is what inspired his writing.
His faith in Christ, or in the Catholic church? The letter only mentions the church.

I would assume he was inspired by his faith in Christ.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:04 AM
 
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His faith in Christ, or in the Catholic church? The letter only mentions the church.

I would assume he was inspired by his faith in Christ.
I was thinking of his faith in God.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:46 AM
 
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https://www.ucatholic.com/blog/j-r-r...in-the-church/



J. R. R. Tolkien was not only the author of the best-selling novel ever written, but a fierce Catholic. Nearly 55 years ago in a letter penned to his son, Tolkien offered a prophetic message on having unwavering Faith despite grave scandal in the clergy.

“Besides the Sun there may be moonlight but if the Sun were removed
there would be no Moon to see. What would Christianity now be if the Roman Church has in fact been destroyed?” – Letter 250, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien


Interesting letter written by Tolkien years ago.
Obviously we do not need any prophetic letter to tell us that abuse is RAMPANT and out of control while leadership continues to support pedophiles.

As for what would "Christianity"be if the RCC was gone?

HAPPIER and less child pornography in the world...
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:48 AM
 
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His faith in Christ, or in the Catholic church? The letter only mentions the church.

I would assume he was inspired by his faith in Christ.
evangelicals continue to JUDGE others?


Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.----------------------------MATTHEW 16:18
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Old 08-30-2018, 06:18 AM
 
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evangelicals continue to JUDGE others?
The only person here judging anyone is you.
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Old 08-30-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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His faith in Christ, or in the Catholic church? The letter only mentions the church.

I would assume he was inspired by his faith in Christ.
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I was thinking of his faith in God.
Yes, me too.
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Old 08-30-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Faith is life built on the foundation of love, it's not a performance or pretense.
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