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Old 09-10-2018, 09:09 PM
 
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I am wondering how God will save everyone since the unforgivable sin is unforgivable - Matthew 12:32 ____________
After all, Jesus' ransom, according to Matthew 20:28, covers MANY and does Not say everyone.

As to save from what ? I find the answer is: Save from death.
There is No ' eternal hell ' because biblical hell comes to a final end when emptied-out hell is cast vacant into that symbolic ' second death ' for vacated biblical hell of Revelation 20:13-14.
So, after everyone in biblical hell is ' delivered up ' ( resurrected out of hell ) then the resurrected dead are saved/ delivered/ rescued from death.
Also, please notice Matthew 25:31-33,37,40 because there is a coming ' time of separation ' to take place here on Earth among the living.
The figurative humble ' sheep'-like people are saved ( delivered/rescued ) through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
They can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth right into the start of calender Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth begins.
That is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come ! Come and bring the benefits of Rev. 22:2 to Earth for the healing of earth's nations.
Mankind will then see the return of the Genesis ' tree of life ' for the healing of Earth's nations.



Sin is always debt. An unforgivable sin is debt that must be paid for.



There is only one thing that destroys death and that is life.

God will save everyone in due time.
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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It has never been debunked, except in the minds of those who cannot see the truth.
This is an all too common occurrence in the forums, Jer.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:18 PM
 
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You have until your last breath to accept Christ.....that is your state entering eternity......rejection is final...no 2nd chances as you will be set up for the Great White Throne......
Sorry; no such thing as eternity, or time. Everything is NOW, and that's it. Bargaining with the (so called) future is the essence of fear and torment. Grace is now.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:52 PM
 
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You have until your last breath to accept Christ.....that is your state entering eternity......rejection is final...no 2nd chances as you will be set up for the Great White Throne......
I prefer to believe Scripture rather than the commandments, traditions & opinions of the Pharisees & their progeny.

The blood of Christ shed for all & grace of Love Omnipotent don't have expiry dates like a carton of milk.

Who is stronger? Man with his free will or God who will have all men to be saved?


https://www.tentmaker.org/books/hope_beyond_hell.pdf

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/un...versalism.html

http://www.tentmaker.org/ScholarsCorner.html
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Old 09-11-2018, 04:48 AM
 
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It has never been debunked. If it had been, why haven't you or those you refer to done so in this thread or any of the other threads i've posted in recent months? All you guys together have come up with a big fat zero. Here are some related threads (& posts) you guys have never refuted & never will be able to refute
Maybe because its like talking to a wall, and because you will respond with the same old (debunked) Tentmaker.Com talking points. What is the point of having the same conversation over and over?
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Old 09-11-2018, 04:50 AM
 
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I prefer to believe Scripture rather than the commandments, traditions & opinions of the Pharisees & their progeny.
You mean the same scripture you argue is full of errors?

Nah, you believe in the commandments, traditions & opinions of Tentmaker.Com.
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Old 09-11-2018, 05:11 AM
 
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Truth be told, if we were given a 2nd chance, we'd screw that up, too.

Jesus died on the cross to save anyone that trusts in him.

Jesus died for those who live and do his Fathers will over themselves now--Matthew 7:21-Matt 16:24--- Few have. There are too many blind guides seeking a tithe that mislead. They even tell those who practice sin that they are saved or born again. And unintelligent mortals believe them. Billions are being stolen yearly like that. Their scholars even know the lies they are teaching.
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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So you only get one chance to trust in him????? Blow it and you are done for?????
you mean more than one lifetime. NO.
yes to those who didn't know his name or his deeds.. they get a chance to know his name and to know he fulfilled the most ancient prophecies.. prophesies long before there was Abraham.. but they will all be given a chance to treaty/covenant of brotherhood/ offer him tribute/bow to him as king of kings Attalus/ atlas, or lord of Lords, depending on their language!
but they lived a righteous life outside of the law of Moses.. and they lived to the oldest law of "Balance" or a concept a balance . meaning you reap what you sow aka it is the root of the even yen and yang concepts aka eye for eye laws of spiritual balances to the laws of life..
and they were righteous to their own conscience as God put his laws in our hearts .. and they listened to their hearts and will find HIM and His law / Familiar / family/ traditional to the most ancient ways espcially before men were Menes'd/ Egypt/ kingdoms usurped .

but that gives no one in this current age any excuses.. you Sir have no excuse .

you will Not get another LIFE .. you have to chose in this life.. and that gives you so many billions and billions of seconds to make chances every week to change your mind, to soften your heart and make a simple prayer .
Like this man .. who had some faith but knew he needed more faith .


23“If You can?” echoed Jesus. “All things are possible to him who believes!” 24Immediately the boy’s father cried out, “I do believe; help my unbelief!” 25When Jesus saw that a crowd had come running, He rebuked the unclean spirit. “You deaf and mute spirit,” He said, “I command you to come out and never enter him again.”…

that man knew he had some belief.. but he also knew he needed more! so he just asked FOR IT>>


Mat 7:7

Ask and it will be given to you; SEEK AND you will FIND; knock and the door will be opened to you.
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Luk 11:9

“So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; SEEK AND you will FIND; knock and the door will be opened to you.


any child can do this !
again here above is the rules for the "seek and find" game. it only takes one second to look up and cry "HELP me ?"! at the max two seconds.. of your whole life time OF CHANCES, SO stop pretending like you only had one chance.

Yet to think he only gave you zillions of Zillions in seconds of chances to do that in.. but smarties like you .. will not get the Next life to Not figure out the "seek and find game.!!
it is not that hard that you should get yet one more second of chances..
than the zillions of chances he already gave you!

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Old 09-11-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: New England
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Jesus died for those who live and do his Fathers will over themselves now--Matthew 7:21-Matt 16:24--- Few have. There are too many blind guides seeking a tithe that mislead. They even tell those who practice sin that they are saved or born again. And unintelligent mortals believe them. Billions are being stolen yearly like that. Their scholars even know the lies they are teaching.
Ok, You are doing the Father’s will then....... What is it?.
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Old 09-11-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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Sin is always debt. An unforgivable sin is debt that must be paid for.
There is only one thing that destroys death and that is life.
God will save everyone in due time.
Save everyone who is not classed with the wicked who are 'destroyed forever' as per Psalm 92:7.
Saved will be the figurative humble sheep-like people at the coming time of Matthew 25:31-33,37,40
The figurative goat-type people are destroyed and will have No resurrection back to life anywhere.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth as per Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-16 is against those who will Not inherit everlasting life either in Heaven or on Earth.
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