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Old 09-30-2018, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Mobile, Al.
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A test has a pass-fail embedded into it...that is such a dualistic mindset...which

is exactly what I am not into....there is no up or down...no left, no right.

You guys don't get it, yet.
There is no pass or fail....geeze.
That's why I have to leave here...each in his own time, tho...
Christianity is based on dualism...separation...them and us.

Do you have any idea what is meant by, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"
I do.
It goes beyond logic and duality.

I luv ya.
Miss H have you ever consider that maybe you're not getting it?.

PICYJAG.
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Old 09-30-2018, 11:04 PM
 
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This world we live in is like a sieve. This is not our home. We are being tested here.
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:52 AM
 
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Jesus admits he test everyone and chooses who gets the secrets or not.

What a god!

Matthew 13:10-17 New International Version (NIV)

10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables:

jesus is the cat and humanity is the mouse.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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In James 1:13 says ...``Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted by God , for God cannot be tempted with evil , neither would God tempted any man `` ..................Then in Matthew 4:1-11.... says` Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil ``....... So did God test Jesus to be tempted by the devil , as God cannot be tempted by evil , or is it just the devil who tempt people to sin , or the devil test them so to curse them ....
The devil rebelled against God, what makes you think he would have any part in testing people for God?
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Well, Hi, in all fairness i came back one more time ...mainly cuz someone sent me a message
that I should include here Rev 3:10.

The point I wanted to make by the thread is there is an incorrect idea about God or Jesus...that is unpopular. I get that.
I see some think of a test in different ways than I do. Ok.
I don't see any of this (us in these bodies) as any test...at all.
1 of Jesus' purposes was to deliver us from temptation, trials, tests and trickery...testing us would be
against God's very character.
('B-but it's all over the Old testament', you say...I know...man interpreted many things
as tests and blamed God for so many natural disasters...)

There was no test saying,"Come", to Peter on the water...it was an extraordinary lesson, a demonstration of the power of faith and then, a drop of doubt.
No test to pass or fail.
"(B-but it's all the Old testament", you say...I know...man interpreted many things as tests and blamed God for so many natural disasters...)

Many probably see the Tree in the Garden story as a test...what test?
God simply said don't eat of it, period...no test. No 'test' of obedience, no
test of love or inner strength...Adam didn't obey, period. He didn't fail any test...he
was tempted, period.

Is the urge for me to gossip or not a test from God? No.

BUT, I will leave it alone...I am not tested by my Father or Jesus or the Holy Spirit...
When I drop all the nails and the hammer from the roof 3 xs...no test...I just am showing myself I need to concentrate more...and it is entertaining to Dad.
If you read this thanks for hearing a diff perspective.
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Old 10-01-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The devil rebelled against God, what makes you think he would have any part in testing people for God?
The devil you say? Have you ever heard of false accusers or those who slander others?
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