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Old 11-02-2018, 05:38 PM
 
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Love does not cause division or separation, it unites people.


Amen, my friend.
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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Love does not cause division or separation, it unites people.
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:30 AM
 
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Yipes! Why would anyone belong to a religion unless he believed it was the right religion ?

If they are Not following Jesus' example (Luke 4:43) then they are Not in the right religion.
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Old 11-03-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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Love does not cause division or separation, it unites people.
Separation happens to be the problem, the problem being is that Jews can't except lawlessness and paganism. Christians separated themselves from Jews when they converted to a religion a Jew can't be a part of, and while love sounds nice, this separation has a proven track recorded of division so heinous as to have persecuted and killed millions of Jews in the last 2000 years because Christians separated, and because Christianity has historically shown hate instead of love for 2000 years. Christianity has not suddenly arrived because so many people speak of love, their actions of love have long been proven with persecution and death because the people of God wouldn't stop following God.

Saying God is done with religion doesn't fix the division, and the division will always bring actions of hate, division isolates the people of God from the whole world.

Those first disciples showed love and unity, that hasn't been true for 2000 years, and we can see what that division has done in the last 2000 years.
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Old 11-03-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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In this video, Team Jesus Preachers are engaged in open air preaching when they are confronted by a Conservadox Jew. It's great to see dedicated disciples of Jesus on the front lines doing battle for our Lord and Savior.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FbTX5VlBSY
YES it is great to see the Jewish people on the front lines doing battle for the truth...


Chapter and verse where Jesus said the gospel was to be battled over? Did Jesus not command Peter to drop the sword?
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Old 11-03-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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If only those doing the "battling" were followers of Christ and not preachers of division..


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Old 11-03-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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Separation happens to be the problem, the problem being is that Jews can't except lawlessness and paganism. Christians separated themselves from Jews when they converted to a religion a Jew can't be a part of, and while love sounds nice, this separation has a proven track recorded of division so heinous as to have persecuted and killed millions of Jews in the last 2000 years because Christians separated, and because Christianity has historically shown hate instead of love for 2000 years. Christianity has not suddenly arrived because so many people speak of love, their actions of love have long been proven with persecution and death because the people of God wouldn't stop following God.

Saying God is done with religion doesn't fix the division, and the division will always bring actions of hate, division isolates the people of God from the whole world.

Those first disciples showed love and unity, that hasn't been true for 2000 years, and we can see what that division has done in the last 2000 years.
No one said God was done with religion, I don't think. I'm saying God didn't implement religion to begin with, and certainly never sanctioned one religion over any other. But, that doesn't mean God can't be found in religion, just like God can be found in science and math and literature and art and music and anything else humanity partakes in. But, you are correct, just saying that no religion is God's religion doesn't fix the division. But when people act on that understanding by allowing others to seek connection to God in their own way, without condemnation, some of the division can heal.
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Old 11-03-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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God did choose one religion over the other when he wrote down and recorded his religion. That doesn't mean people in all other religions are doomed, it simply means that other religions and other people are not under the specific covenant of Israel where Christianity claimed their foundation. Those first Gentiles rejected all other religions to follow God's religion.

That is no longer the case, and because Christians no longer want to join Jews in God's religion, the world is set against anyone who keeps God's religion. This division that breeds hatred is not some long past thing, it was in my own father's time when the holocaust happened, and the German people decieved with the words of Martin Luther.

Team Jesus is a good example of the problem, they think Jews are in need, and they think they are the cure for the Jews when they aren't even in God's religion, they are the one's who need conversion, not Jews. This division occurs because Christianity is separted from God's religion, and Christianity needs to rationalize their religion by bringing down God's religion.
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Old 11-03-2018, 01:33 PM
 
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God did choose one religion over the other when he wrote down and recorded his religion.
Says a plethora of people about a plethora of religions.



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That doesn't mean people in all other religions are doomed, it simply means that other religions and other people are not under the specific covenant of Israel where Christianity claimed their foundation. Those first Gentiles rejected all other religions to follow God's religion.

That is no longer the case, and because Christians no longer want to join Jews in God's religion, the world is set against anyone who keeps God's religion. This division that breeds hatred is not some long past thing, it was in my own father's time when the holocaust happened, and the German people decieved with the words of Martin Luther.

Team Jesus is a good example of the problem, they think Jews are in need, and they think they are the cure for the Jews when they aren't even in God's religion, they are the one's who need conversion, not Jews. This division occurs because Christianity is separted from God's religion, and Christianity needs to rationalize their religion by bringing down God's religion.
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Old 11-03-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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Says a plethora of people about a plethora of religions.
We aren't speaking of other religions and other people, we are speaking of Team Jesus in Christianity thinking they need to convert Jews to their Anti Semitic, anti God religion, and to take them seriously is a hard thing to do. Whether we are talking about Team Jesus or Jews for Jesus, they seek to take a Jew and to turn that Jew away from the religion of God by saying their religion has replaced God's religion and this mentality is not only bizarre, it is highly dangerous having caused the deaths of anyone brave enough to follow the Sabbaths and feasts of Messiah.

If everyone was filled with acceptance and love like you and Jerwade, there wouldn't be a problem, but that is not reality, reality is 2000 years of persecution and horrible, unthinkable acts of hatred and murder against those brave enough to keep the worship system of Messiah, and although most of us feel that we have entered an enlightened era, Anti Semitism is still real and still causing death every day and the sad thing about this is that Christians abandon Judah, Jerusalem and the ways of God. Through this division came Islam which also began with God's Sabbath, Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles, but since Christians abandoned the feasts and Sabbaths of Messiah, Islam followed their lead and now you had 2 religions against Judah, against Jerusalem, and against the Sabbaths and feasts of Jesus. If the first Christianity would not have abandoned the ways of Jesus, there simply would not have been an Islam as it is today. Mohammed came through the religion of those Samaritans who were also waiting on a Messiah and who also claimed to be the new Israel.

These Samaritans were taken from Babylon and Egypt by the king of Assyria in 722 B.C. when the king of Assyria took the Gentile ten tribes away from Israel.

Those new people brought from Babylon and Egypt cried out to the king of Assyria asking that the king of Assyria bring priests from the ten tribes to teach them the anti Semitic pagan religion that the ten tribes kept.

ONE PRIEST was brought back from the ten lost tribes to teach these new people the religion of the lost ten tribes that killed them.

Then these Samaritans took on the religion of the lost ten tribes and began claiming to be the new Israel just like Christianity, the true Jew.........We see this with that woman at the well lying to Jesus saying,'' our father Jacob built this well.'' In no way was her father Jacob.

She was lying as all Samaritans lied as all of them claimed to be the new Israel but were not. This is exacatly what Christianity does, and the reason the story of the good Samaritan cannot be understood unless you realize the relationship between Jess and Samaritans, they were bitter enemies with the exact same relationship Christians have with Jews. Gentiles claiming to be Israel when they are not.

Mohammed came filling a void that would have not been there had Christians stayed loyal to Judah, Jerusalem, and the 7 feasts of Christ. If Christianity would not have abandoned the Sabbaths and feasts of Messiah, the holocaust could not have happened, and Mohammed would not have appealed to the Jews trying to be that prophet spoken of of in Scripture, and because the Jews would not accept Mohammed, Mohammed followed the exact same path as Christianity in rejecting the Passover he began with, in rejecting Pentecost and Sukkot.

There is but one God, and world peace is promised by this one God, and we know exactly what brings world peace.

World peace spoken by Jeremiah, by Zechariah, by Ezekiel, Isaiah, and Malchi and others, only one thing brings universal peace.

Only one thing can possibly bring world peace, and this is all the Gentile of the world agreeing upon one single worship system where all people have the same Sabbath and feasts.

The same harvests, and so every prophet who shows world peace is showing why world peace comes, because Babylonians and Egyptians and all the nations accept the feast of Tabernacles and the feast of Passover. It has been about harvests from the very begining when Eve chose the wrong harvest then tried to cover herself in the wrong harvest to Cain choosing the wrong harvest and killing his brother.

All of the hate, all the peresecution and death has been over holy days and Sabbaths that make people different. Christmas and Easter have always been vehicles to death because if you truly want to keep the Passover of Jesus or any holy day of Jesus, you stood out like a sore thumb as a Jew, or even worse, a Jew lover.

World peace would come if JUST the Christians accepted the feast of Tabernacles because it would be a domino effect just from knowlege, that preachers began seeking the great secrets of Tabernacles.

Until Christians return, and until Muslims return, there can be no peace. Both the Christian and the Muslim can come back to the feasts of Messiah, both began with the 3 main feasts, and both can return, but what is impossible is for the Jew to join either of them, and so we wait on their return, and only they can return. The Jew will not abandon God.
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